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Thanks for this account, Stephen, of Richard Long's slide show and lecture, which sounds interesting, but thanks, too, for going into detail about your ringer of a question, his response, and the various thoughts that prompted in you. >In fariness, I guess we can also count multiples the number of writers who >have no literacy around the visual! It's probably the sad irony of so many >art programs in the way they exclude literature study from their >requirements, and, reciprocally, the way creative writing programs remain >blind to visual literature, let alone the history of music, avant garde >innovation, etc. Whatever writers, artists or composers discover beyond the >frames of their discipline, I suspect is left to do it on their own. I >suspect, or imagine the multi-disciplinary character of computer technology >is rapidly altering the situation (tho I personally do not know if the >'pedagogy' is keeping up with these changes at all. ) You may have a point about whatever 'writers, artists or composers discover beyond the frames of their discipline, I suspect is left to do it on their own." However, I don't know. One of the aspects that I like about teaching at the Fine Arts Center in Provincetown is the simultaneous residencies of poets, fiction writers, non-fiction writers, print makers, artists in various media, photographers, etc. A reading by a poet will be paired or sometimes tripled with a slide show, lecture, by an artist in the visual arts. The night I read last summer, there was also a lecture and slide show/ video by Vicky Tomayko, whose work lately is a sort of child's fantasy world inhabited by monsters and animated objects, which often transformed across whatever boundaries that world created. I found the work of the artists incredibly interesting, for instance Marian Roth's talk about making her entire house into a pin hole camera and the resulting amazing images. Almost all the 'writer' events I've been to in the last year have included the visual arts and music. On the other hand, I'd guess that writing courses do mostly teach writing, but then that depends. At Brandeis where I'm teaching undergraduates, almost all of the students are double majors, I think I've had four creative writing majors out of some 50 students, and even then they are usually taking another major, in art, music, pre-med, etc. So there does seem to be a lot of crossing over artistic and science disciplines, in practice anyway; I can't really say about the "pedagogy' not having had any. . . best, Rebecca ---- Original message ---- >Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:19:30 -0800