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For the latest news on the Glyn Pits (ST 266999) see http://www.pontypoolglynpits.co.uk/index.htm and after so many years neglect the news is better! Not so Dorothea (SH 497532) where I believe there is a major clash of interests i.e. the owner wants to develop the surrounding flooded quarries as a diving centre and cannot get permission so is resisting attempts to conserve the place. Simon. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 14/01/06