You pose an interesting question which vuts to the heart of this - how should we judge if somebody is a good teacher? Do our current methods capture this? Do our current accredited courses (including MAs) attempt to determine if somebody is a good teacher? Graham Lewis Centre for Academic Practice University of Warwick University House Kirby Corner Road Coventry CV4 8UW UK Email: [log in to unmask] Tel.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72737 Mobile: 07703100401 Fax.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72736 Blog: http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/ >>> Cheryl-Anne Vass <[log in to unmask]> 08/29/06 08:04pm >>> st1\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#ieooui)}@font-face { font-family: SimSun;}@font-face { font-family: @SimSun;}@font-face { font-family: Verdana;}@page Section1 {size: 595.3pt 841.9pt; margin: 72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; }P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 11pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial}LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 11pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial}DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 11pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial}A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-compose}DIV.Section1 { page: Section1}Is this the end of the debate? I was rather enjoying seeing the different viewpoints on this. I have to come out of the closet and say that I do hold a PGC and that was how I became a registered practitioner, and the reason I got one was because I started teaching with the OU and after a year thought I needed some theory to underpin what I was doing as I was mainly flying by the seat of my pants for the first year. I am not sure if obtaining the PGC has improved or informed my teaching, but my students seem to enjoy what we get up to. But equally, I am not sure how to judge whether I am a "good" teacher or a "bad" teacher or (most likely) somewhere in between. Perhaps, rather than just doing a post graduate certificate, lecturers should be encouraged to do a masters in education. That way there would be no doubt as to the amount of work that went in to obtaining the qualification, and being a registered practitioner might carry some clout. Then again, how many lecturers have the time to do the PGC, never mind the masters. As a lecturer of only eighteen months standing, I seek the guidance of the great and the good in these matters. Regards Cheryl-Anne -----Original Message----- From: Online forum for SEDA, the Staff & Educational Development Association [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Barry Jackson Sent: 29 August 2006 11:42 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: HEA registration query - thanks Thanks to all of you have responded to my query – it seems there are some reservations about the level of equivalence between HEA-registered status and completion of M-level study, but in most institutions HEA registration may be used as an exemption from a mandatory M-level study. This is very helpful information – thanks again, colleagues Barry Professor Barry JacksonPro Vice-Chancellor and Director of Learning & TeachingMiddlesex University North London Business Park |Oakleigh Road South | London N11 1QS tel. +44 (0)20 8411 5018