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Hi there
I know that a number of museums do exactly that - well more along the lines of do any staff have children of the right age who would be willing - don't believe all the publicity shots you see....
Tobin May
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From: psci-com: on public engagement with science [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Reynolds
Sent: 23 February 2006 22:58
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Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] Permissions for kids photos
Hi Di et al
Looking at the correspondence re school shots etc I now remember why we took
the more expensive (maybe not?) but quicker and less hassle route of hiring
a model (i.e. young person) and placing them next to a chalkboard for some
recent shots!!
See the results at http://www.suschem.org (various publications)
Regards
Tim Reynolds
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>Hi there
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>Your right it does not have to be quite as painful and schools can be very
>supportive - one school I worked with recently already having organised and
>collected consent forms prior to my even asking!
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>However two points to bear in mind
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>If you are only making one visit having pre signed consent means that there
>doesn't have to be a return visit - something that is not always possible
>with a time constrained project or if the subjects are in another part of
>the country. In addition you don't need to know the names of the students
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>if have consent forms of all the subjects there is no need to match the
>actual consents to the images.
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>I am concerned that having an image of a student under the age of 18 with
>out the express consent of their parent or guardian leaves you on slightly
>dodgy ground.
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>In terms of post 18 consent things seem to have become a lot more relaxed
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>a number of TV companies no don't bother, the idea being that the general
>public are media savvy enough to work out what happens when someone points
>camera at you.
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>All the best
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>Hi Dianne, Mark and Tobin,
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>It's not always that bad and needn't be that painful.
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>As usual with most of these things Dianne, talk to the school. In fact talk
>to several schools as you are likely to get different degrees of caution.
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>Some will be much more relaxed than others, some will say that's fine but
>make sure that xxx isn't in the shots, a few may say 'no' - but many
>schools will have a standard form that they can send out with a few days
>notice.
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>As you are taking stills, you're not likely to include the whole class and
>you won't know exactly what you will want to use until you've had time to
>study the results. Once you've chosen your pictures I would recommend that
>you go back and get specific permission from the parents of the kids in
>your
>chosen pictures via the school (keeping in mind that you may have to
>contact
>both parents if they happen to be separated). I guess if one of the parents
>objects then you'll have to ditch that particular picture.
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>I did this recently and had no problems at all.
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>Very best wishes
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>Steve
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>That's fine as long as you have a model release form for each student
>signed
>by their parent/guardian which you then keep in big file for all eternity.
>Make sure all the possibilities you intend to use the images for are
>included in the release, including ones you might not have thought of (i.e.
>possible future uses). And make sure if not being released to third parties
>they are kept secure - images have a way of creeping especially when there
>are press enquiries and the images are sitting on a hard drive. And finally
>be firm - anyone who doesn't have a release cannot be included in the
>shots.
>Have had to bin an entire half hour show due to this before.
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>Other than that good luck - Oh and in terms of the release forms make sure
>they are given out at least four weeks before you intend to visit so that
>they can be forgotten to be brought in, re-issued, eaten by the dog,
>re-issued again, left at school, taken home again and finally hopefully
>brought in signed just in time.
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>I hope someone can help me. I remember a good while ago there was a
>discussion on the list about the restrictions and permissions that applied
>when taking photos of children. I can't remember the recommendatons but if
>anyone can point me in the direction of authoritative info I'd be grateful.
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>We plan to visit a school to take a series of pics of kids in science
>classes. The pics will be used in furture publications - electronic and
>print. They will not be made available to third parties.
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>We have the teacher's permission and I imagine model release forms for the
>individual kids will be needed - are there any other rules we need to be
>aware of?
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>All help very gratefully received
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