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> I looked at the two websites, they don't seem to > offer me anything that is > of academic value. They are funded by a right-wing > pro-religion > organisation that aims at blurring the distinction > between religion and > science. I would have to disagree with you there. The Faraday Institute is an extremely thought provoking organisation and contains many useful articles/files/etc from practising scientists. Christians in Science provides a good platform for Christians who are working scientists to debate many of these issues. I also take reasonable offence at your claim that these organisations are funded by "a right-wing pro-religion organisation". I challenge you to name this funder and give reason for your subsequent dismissal. I have not seen anything to justify your comments on either the CIS or Faraday sites, but would be very interested to hear what you have to say. Like Mikey Brass I am a theistic evolutionist. I simply disagree with both his (and the BCSE's) viewpoint on creationism being a major issue here in the UK. If it was ever in danger of becoming so I would be amongst the first to challenge it. Shouting out against it at the moment does as much damage and polarises general public opinion just as much as do the Creationists themselves. Both extremes, whether you disagree with either side or not, are unhelpful and will lead to exactly the situation the BCSE already fears is happening here. Gavin ---------- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ********************************************************************** 1. To suspend yourself from the list, whilst on leave, for example, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the following message: set psci-com nomail 2. To resume email from the list, send the following message: set psci-com mail 3. To leave psci-com, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the message: leave psci-com 4. Further information about the psci-com discussion list, including list archive, can be found at the list web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/psci-com.html 5. The psci-com gateway to internet resources on science communication and science and society can be found at http://psci-com.ac.uk **********************************************************************