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Victim mentality sums up the engineers pretty well by my count. More interested in whining about not being loved than doing something about it. I am about to embark on another attempt. Wish me luck. MK -----Original Message----- From: psci-com: on public engagement with science [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Green Sent: 08 May 2006 13:17 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] A bit of a whinge A few years ago AlphaGalileo ran a small seminar for British engineering journos and PROs on ways to get more and better coverage of UK research in the media. We got a guy from Fraunhofer to attend and talk about how they operate, since they get plenty of media coverage. The outcome was a set of very simple suggestions to get UK engineering better known and better understood by the UK/world media. What happened to them? N'owt. I hate using terms like this (especially if there are social scientists reading this) but it does seem that sometimes the UK engineering community has a victim mentality. Peter Green Director Development Email: [log in to unmask] Phone: +44 (0) 7866 727141 Fax: +44(0) 8700 524429 AlphaGalileo Foundation 175-185 Grays Inn Road London WC1X 8UP United Kingdom AlphaGalileo: The online press centre for the latest in European research www.alphagalileo.org On 8 May 2006, at 12:44, C.A.Stokes wrote: > Sounds interesting. You couldn't give us the reference, could you? > > Chris > >> I have just been reading a long academic paper on the public >> understanding of engineering. All of it could have been >> written a quarter of a century ago. And yet sweet bugger all >> has happened on that front in the meantime. > > ********************************************************************** > > 1. To suspend yourself from the list, whilst on leave, for example, > send an email to [log in to unmask] with the following message: > > set psci-com nomail > > 2. To resume email from the list, send the following message: > > set psci-com mail > > 3. To leave psci-com, send an email to [log in to unmask] with > the message: > > leave psci-com > > 4. Further information about the psci-com discussion list, > including list archive, > can be found at the list web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/ > psci-com.html > > 5. The psci-com gateway to internet resources on science > communication and science > and society can be found at http://psci-com.org.uk > ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** 1. To suspend yourself from the list, whilst on leave, for example, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the following message: set psci-com nomail 2. To resume email from the list, send the following message: set psci-com mail 3. To leave psci-com, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the message: leave psci-com 4. Further information about the psci-com discussion list, including list archive, can be found at the list web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/psci-com.html 5. The psci-com gateway to internet resources on science communication and science and society can be found at http://psci-com.org.uk ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** 1. To suspend yourself from the list, whilst on leave, for example, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the following message: set psci-com nomail 2. To resume email from the list, send the following message: set psci-com mail 3. To leave psci-com, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the message: leave psci-com 4. Further information about the psci-com discussion list, including list archive, can be found at the list web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/psci-com.html 5. The psci-com gateway to internet resources on science communication and science and society can be found at http://psci-com.org.uk **********************************************************************