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Hello all, Hello Steven Bentley The article on students asserting their intellectual property quotes John Barrie (CEO of the company marketing Turnitin) as saying that no student had previously challenged the legality of the Turnitin database. That's not true and, cynic that I am about journalists, I have no idea if Barrie actually said it. There's a longtsanding case from a Montreal University (Magill I'm pretty sure) where a student took a case making exactly the same point and the Canadian HE system has been debating this issue for years. From memory, the Canadian case was started in 2003 and rumbles on. If you track discussions about plagiarism and detection on blogs and chat spaces (oh the things I do in the name of 'reseach'......) this issue comes up a lot. Hardly surprising. It reminds me of the case of the guy whose spleen was removed to save his life after a car accident and then, without his permission, the cells were used to create exactly the cells needed for developing a drug therapy that made the pharaceutical company squillions. He sued for his share - does anyone know how that one panned out? There's some literature on it, too - for example, an interesting study from Flinders University in Australia looking at students' views on using Turnitin before it was introduced. This 'making money from my owrk' was a frequently-mentioned issue [especially, according to the authors, amongst Law students]. For pdf version, try http://jutlp.uow.edu.au/index.html It is in issue 3b, Green et al (2005) But leaving all this to one side, the students are making a point that needs to be heard: if running stuff through Turnitin is the only thing the school is doing, then the students have a valid case for saying it undermines the relationship they have with teachers and with their own learning. And once again, the ability of Turnitin to 'catch cheaters' is asserted. Humph. Jude Steven Bentley wrote: > Another interesting piece… students at an American High School are > protesting that their Intellectual Property rights are being violated > by Turnitin storing their work in the papers database. > > _http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/21/AR2006092101800.html_ > > > Steve > > --- > *Steve Bentley* > Learning Technology Adviser > School of Applied Sciences > University of Huddersfield > HD1 3DH > > T: 01484 472181 > E: [log in to unmask] > > --- > This transmission is confidential and may be legally privileged. If > you receive it in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and > remove it from your system. If the content of this e-mail does not > relate to the business of the University of Huddersfield, then we do > not endorse it and will accept no liability. > > ************************************************************************* > You are subscribed to the JISC Plagiarism mailing list. To > Unsubscribe, change your subscription options, or access list > archives, visit http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/PLAGIARISM.html > ************************************************************************* -- Jude Carroll Deputy Director, ASKe Oxford Brookes University Wheatley, OXON OX33 1HX +44 (0)1865 485827 ************************************************************************* You are subscribed to the JISC Plagiarism mailing list. To Unsubscribe, change your subscription options, or access list archives, visit http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/PLAGIARISM.html *************************************************************************