Dear Lucy, > I am looking for a phonetic contrast which is difficult for English > speakers to perceive, as a control stimulus in a study we are setting up. > We are examining how well English speakers can learn to discriminate > this in comparison to the Hindi dental-retroflex contrast. As you are > probably aware, this contrast is extremely difficult for English > speakers to perceive, but we are struggling to find an equivalently > difficult contrast which is not already contained within the phonology > of Hindi (ruling out aspirated-non aspirated stops, for instance). > We have tried several contrasts, such as Mandarin alveolo-palatal > fricative-affricate contrasts, Tagalog nasal contrasts, tonal contrasts, > but our pilot studies have not found them comparably difficult over > several learning sessions. > Any suggestions gratefully received, In American English, there's the rather subtle intervocalic tapped /t/ vs. /d/ contrast, e.g. liter (litre) vs. leader, latter vs. ladder, bitter vs. bidder, matter vs. madder, metal/mettle vs. medal/meddle, and so on, the main difference being a longer vowel before the inherently voiced /d/ and a somewhat longer or potentially longer intervocalic consonant, if you're not talking too quickly. This distinction recently came up in my radio English teaching in Taiwan. Karen Chung http://ccms.ntu.edu.tw/~karchung/ http://lists.topica.com/lists/phonetics/