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Hi Sue I am one of the fortunate ones who has managed to transfer on to Part 3 of the Register without any problems. I hadn't realised just how lucky I was. As a newly re-elected member of the RCN SOHN steering committee, I will ensure that this issue is brought up at our next meeting (although I am certain that it will have been discussed at length at previous meetings). I can't let your statement "I don't think I have ever seen the RCN being proactive where OH is concerned but maybe they act behind the scenes" go without comment. Yes, the SOHN committee has worked hard to get the message of all OH nurses over on many OH issues and there has been truly Herculean effort from Carol Bannister and Jan Maw, especially with regard to the Career & Competency Framework. SOHN has for at least the past 15 months actively encouraged members to contact either SOHN or the NMC to voice their concerns about the 3rd part of the Register, and I would be surprised if the committee had not submitted comments to the NMC. Have all those of you who are in the RCN joined the SOHN forum? It is free to do so - you can do it on-line, or via RCN Direct. As some of the previous correspondents in this debate have said, having a strong, united voice has more impact than a number of individuals. My current e-mail address is [log in to unmask], and my phone numbers are below. Please do contact me off-line if you want me to take this, or any other issues, forward to the SOHN committee. Jane Ingham Occupational Health Advisor HMP Lincoln HMP Morton Hall Tel: 01522 663034 Tel: 01522 666803 VPN: 7070 3034 VPN: 7233 6803 -----Original Message----- From: Harrison-Stone, Sue [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 28 September 2006 10:52 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] NMC register I am still uncertain why so many apparently differing opinions are being expressed by the NMC. Like Greta I long ago realised that the NMC is not there for just me as a nurse but is there to set standards and protect the public from unethical practises. However in setting the standards and processes it seems they are not consulting with the nurses of whatever branch of nursing these standards and processes are applicable. I have always felt that it is set by individuals who have little knowledge of the world in which we function and work. And they seem to have lost the vision of nursing and become excessively bureaucratic. I think Greta's comments about ensuring that nurses are regulated is important and to be welcomed BUT I then expect the NMC to act with the same level of professionalism, knowledge and understanding as well as common sense that they expect from the nurse on the shop floor. This seems to be lacking. At the moment confusion seems to reign supreme. Just as it was suggested we register our opinions about the very secretive possible sale of the RCN H'quarters is there any way we can respond to these issues with the NMC. I believe we have the RCN and we also have an OHA on a committee within the NMC so can they be activated into acting on our behalf? I don't think I have ever seen the RCN being proactive where OH is concerned but maybe they act behind the scenes. But if enough OHA's were prepared to stick their heads over the battlement could we put together some sort of proposal for the registration of OHA's? And express our displeasure at the NMC not allowing our branch of nursing to be recognised in its own right rather than some add on extra to community nursing etc. Out of interest what do HV'S do to register? Do they have the same problems or is it all clearly set up for them? I cannot believe that OHA's are seriously expected to re do their degrees when the failure of registration seems to be a Council who don't really know what to do with us or even what we do let alone have a know(by all the NMC staff)process in place. I would like to know if the educational establishments who undertake OH training are not flagging up these issues with both the students, the RCN and the NMC. The big educational establishments must have some weight or does the NMC only listen to its own voice. If that is the case no wonder all is confusion and bureaucracy. 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