Like most scholarly publishers, Sage has some content in aggregated databases, though we have always taken a cautious approach to these, given the risk of cancellations. I'm interested to know whether people making those cancellation decisions (or indeed the decisions to subscribe to the aggregated databases) do so taking into account the embargo periods on inclusion of current content in the databases that many publishers (including Sage) have in their agreements with the aggregators. If these are taken into account, I'd also be interested in any feedback on what sort of embargo period (1 year, 2 years etc.,) you would regard as significant in affecting your decision on whether to cancel or whether to subscribe to a database. Leo Walford Leo Walford Associate Director, Journal Publishing Sage Publications 1 Oliver's Yard 55 City Road London EC1Y 1SP, UK [log in to unmask] T +44 (0) 20 7324 8500 F +44 (0) 20 7324 8600 www.sagepub.com -----Original Message----- From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of C.E.Grace Sent: 14 February 2006 14:54 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: E-Journal access through full text databases We have adopted a very cautious attitude towards cancelling anything on the basis of access being available via fulltext databases where titles are not explicitly named in the licence. This is because we have had problems when access to a particular title or range of titles has been written into a course and then that access has disappeared. It can be very difficult to find alternative sources for the titles that you need and the individual sub or Nesli-type of licence where titles are listed is really the safest option for continued online access. Publishers, it seems, can withdraw content without a great deal of notice. Keeping the print archives is a more separate issue for us than perhaps it is elsewhere because our students need online access and print offers them no alternative. We are going to be trying to devise a proper strategy for this and for all our print / electronic buying in the very near future. Best wishes Claire Grace Resources Manager The Open University Library ________________________________ From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group on behalf of Olwyn Reynard Sent: Tue 14/02/2006 14:15 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: E-Journal access through full text databases We subscribe to two full text databases via Ebsco - Academic Search Elite and Business Source Premier, to ABI Inform via Proquest and to Expanded Academic via Infotrac. We have cancelled some (a very small percentage so far) subscriptions to journals that are included in those databases, but we have not discarded the print archives. We are aware of the risk that the publisher could withdraw content, but so far this has not affected any of these titles. If it did we would have to consider alternative ways of obtaining access. Olwyn Reynard Olwyn Reynard, Electronic Resources Librarian, Kimberlin Library, De Montfort University, The Gateway, Leicester LE1 9BH Tel 0116 2577865 email [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Anna Sale [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 14 February 2006 12:34 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: E-Journal access through full text databases Dear All, Like a lot of academic institutions we are moving where available to e-only access for journals and removing long archival runs of print journals from the shelves where archival access is available online. For a few of the print journals we subscribe to this archival and current online access is available through full text databases such as Infotrac. Our concern in cancelling the print with regards to these titles is the reliability of continued access to titles through full text databases. I would be very interested to know if any other institutions have explored this and as a result have cancelled their current print subscriptions, moved print archives to storage or even discarded their print archives on the based of e-access through a full text database? Many thanks in advance Anna Sale Anna Sale Electronic Resources and Metadata Team Leader Information Services Division University of Salford Adelphi Campus Peru Street Salford M3 6EQ Tel: +44(0)161 295 6229 Fax: +44(0)161 295 6189 Email: [log in to unmask] http://www.isd.salford.ac.uk This email and its attachments are intended to be read by the above named recipients only, and the contents may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this email you must not act on it, copy it or show it to anyone. But do please reply to it and highlight the error, then delete it from your computer. 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