Hello,
Can I ask why an exceptional candidate would not have had the opportunity to gain a librarianship degree ? If they were that good, why would a university or college have not accepted them onto a degree course ?
| "Williams, Rebecca"
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If it's just to prove a certain level of academic ability then why not have a route into the profession which could include any degree backed up by a short professional training - similar to a PGCE?
Rebecca Williams
Principal Librarian
Children's, Youth and Development
Swansea Libraries
'01792 637132
www.swansea.gov.uk/libraries
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Sent: 12 June 2006 12:45
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Subject: Re: calling all ACLIPs: what ACLIP entitles you to in your
librar y.
Isn that not the same with a lot of degrees though - it's about the analytical and transferable skills learned as well as the direct knowledge isn't it?
I can't say I directly use my classics undergrad degree but it helped to shape the way I analyse and deal with data on a daily basis.
Just my humble opinion.
Zoe Harland
Assistant Librarian: Reader Services
Royal Society of Medicine
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Sent: 12 June 2006 12:39
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librar y.
Hmmm, different debate - what is a professional librarian?
How many of us use the things we learned on our degree courses in our daily work? More so if you're in a "traditional" librarian's role perhaps, but I certainly don't.
Rebecca Williams
Principal Librarian
Children's, Youth and Development
Swansea Libraries
'01792 637132
www.swansea.gov.uk/libraries
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librar y.
Does this mean that one no longer needs to
go to university to become a professional librarian?
On 12/06/06, Williams, Rebecca < [log in to unmask]> wrote:
Presumably because they have not had the opportunity in their careers or lives to attend university and/or cannot commit to or afford distance learning.
Rebecca Williams
Principal Librarian
Children's, Youth and Development
Swansea Libraries
'01792 637132
www.swansea.gov.uk/libraries
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Hello,
Can I ask why an exceptional candidate would not have had the opportunity
to gain a librarianship degree ? If they were that good, why would a university
or college have not accepted them onto a degree course ?
| Amanda Poulton <[log in to unmask]>
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We decided at Northamptonshire that it was an appropriate equivalent provided
that candidates can meet the required criteria for the post and of course
they will have to compete with those who apply with a librarian qualification.
Given the experience and professionalism that some of our library assistants
and supervisors have to offer we felt that some, after having pursued the
ACLIP route, would be able to perform as a librarian without devaluing
the profession or undermining the librarianship qualification. I wouldn't
necessarily say that it was an alternative route more that it gives exceptional
candidates who have not had the opportunity to gain a librarianship degree
the opportunity to pursue their career at a professional level if they
can prove both through ACLIP and their experience that they have the necessary
skills to do the job. Certainly CILIP encourages employers to "Consider
offering financial incentives and career progression and development opportunities
to successful individuals to improve retention of proven quality employees"
and having investing the time in supporting ACLIP candidates to raise the
level of their prefessionalism we would rather not lose them to another
employer but offer them a career progression opportunity.
Amanda
Amanda Poulton
Principal Librarian - Northampton Area
Northamptonshire County Council
Weston Favell Library
Weston Favell Centre
Northampton
NN3 8JZ
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>>> Steve <[log in to unmask]>
12/06/2006 10:46:36 >>>
Could someone clarify the purpose ACLIP and the certification scheme. I
understood it was to provide a framework for and recognition of training
and
development for library assistants. Is it an alternative route to becoming
a
professional librarian/info professional?
A second question - is there anyone in the Yorkshire and Humberside region
who works as a solo professional or in a "special" library who
is working
towards chartership and wants to exchange ideas?
Steve
On 12/06/06, Amanda Poulton <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
>
> Joanne,
>
> At Northamptonshire we have agreed that there will be no remuneration
for
> staff holding an ACLIP. However, they will be considered a "qualified
> librarian" in terms of applying for professional jobs such as
a team
> librarian.
>
> Amanda
>
> >>> Joanne Payne <[log in to unmask]>
09/06/2006 07:13:30 >>>
> THis is to everyone working towards chartership who have achieved
ACLIP
> status.
> I am a library assistant and the only ACLIP in my authority and there
is
> some confusion among management about what this qualification entitles
me
> to in my workplace. For example:
>
> Am I entitled to a new pay scale?
>
> Do other authorities employ ACLIPs in a more senior post, eg below
> librarians but above senior library assistants?
>
> Is it an acceptable qualification to apply for librarian/management
> positions?
>
> Any advice from other ACLIPs about their experiences since certification,
> or information from managers of other authorities would be very much
> appreciated.
>
> Joanne Payne ACLIP.
>
> Amanda Poulton
> Principal Librarian - Northampton Area
> Northamptonshire County Council
> Weston Favell Library
> Weston Favell Centre
> Northampton
> NN3 8JZ
>
> Email: [log in to unmask]
> Tel: (01604) 773901
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