thank you kind sir very much indeed http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=ind0611&L=int-boundaries&T=0&F=&S=&X=19754A395BCD0D6D33&Y=aletheiak%40yahoo.com&P=1690 both for the comprehensive scope of your thinking & the following particular points i would like to pursue the fact that territorial & sovereign rights claims south of 60 degrees south latitude are merely set aside or frozen since 1959 rather than denied outright & forever does clearly distinguish such disclaimers from the subsequent & more nearly unequivocal & uncompromised & thus more comprehensive disclaimers to the balance of the high seas that have been made & promised by unclos since the 1980s still even if all the antarctic disclaimers were suddenly unfrozen which i agree might easily transpire in a time of global warming & technological advancement there would still remain in nonnational format the full sixth of the antarctic pie known as marie byrd land & situated between the chilean & kiwi slices or between 90 & 150 degrees of west longitude & this land territory would remain & indeed remains today just as unclaimed & nonnational as it has ever been whether before or after 1959 so we do appear to have in any case our terra firma beachhead of everyones land or the once & former no mans land here in marie byrd land at the very least & it seems this land of ours extends all the way to the south pole if not also a bit beyond or actually across the polar multipoint into the indefinite norwegian polar disclaimer between 20 west & 45 east longitude depicted here http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/islands_oceans_poles/antarctic_region_pol02.jpg for which curious proruption thru a point please see footnote below not that this peculiar historic doubling & redoubling of no mans land in any way presupposes or assures its own continuance as everyones land since anyone might lay claim in future to this our last known bit of neverland or everland as the case may be but it is reassuring to know that as of this writing anyway everyones land does actually exist both because of & in spite of the antarctic treaties rather than only a merely hypothetical or eventual everyones water per unclos nor just a potential everyones outer space etc but an actual everyones l a n d properly so called & like a great national park or a last sacred vestige of patrimony this solid basis in solid ground would appear to at least stand a good chance of persisting thru all manner of future vicissitudes of exploitation etc so that is one point for everyone & for everyones land but i feel it also needs to be emphasized as you have also already more than suggested even extreme comprehensiveness does not necessarily quite add up to universality for just as the antarctic treaty isnt really universal at all but rather involves only a few handfuls of signatory nations so also is the unclos system even if & when it attains to its fully intended scope similary limited to the nations of the united nations in terms both of conventionality & trusteeship & of course not every nation is a member of the united nations & moreover not every person is a member of a nation of any character let alone a necessarily united nation as it were vis a vis unclos or antarctica or outer space etc so i think there remains a question of how really & practically & legally to get from no mans land to everyones land properly so called & finally & granting we are still here on the cusp between legality & nebulosity how then to actually institute & or constitute a nation state in which the sovereignty of every individual human being both within that state & outside of it is indeed fully regarded & valued as equally divine that is not just another case of lip service to the self evident truth that all men are created equal but to the perhaps slightly less evident truth that all people are equally creator but in any case i too think this is a wonderful investigation & project & certainly invite as much co creation as anyone might wish to bring footnote yep thats right we do seem to have here at the south pole the worlds 4th reported albeit hitherto unnoticed boundary cross just like those similarly precious rarities previously found at jungholz & baarle & cooch behar but only if everyones land proves to be as real as germany austria the netherlands belgium india or bangladesh & only if someone can say where the norwegian south polar disclaimer really ends since a territory without a boundary is no less a conundrum than a country without a state ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com