Hi All Thanks for some really interesting and useful points so far Nick, you've hit the nail on the head in terms of where Factsheets are intended to be useful - as a practical aid to anyone who needs guidance in a particular area, but may have neither the time nor inclination to become familiar with the source materials like MIDAS. Local Societies and Contractors are a key target audience for Factsheets - it's all about being useful to whole community, inclusion and facilitation! Do people have any thoughts on what else Local Societies and Contracting Units might need? I also agree that we need to be clear about who the Factsheet/s will be being read by. But re the example given, Digital Archiving, it will be a clear concise summary of the issues and procedures involved that would be very broadly applicable - perhaps anything more detailed would be moving towards a `Guide to Good Practice..' style publication? It may be that we do need to pitch differently to different audiences, a concrete example of where this might be the case would be good for further discussion....thoughts? And Pat, it's a very good point about ensuring people are made aware of areas that fall under the `we don't know yet...' heading - as you say, it's easy to spend a lot of time looking for something that isn't there. Maybe the FISH website could develop this function, giving people an indication of the extent of current knowledge and practice in different fields. How would we do that...? Printable .pdf versions are a good idea too - although please note we weren't envisaging anything too robust and costly for the hard-copy, more laminating than preserving for posterity! Please do feedback about potential Factsheet topics that arise from your HER work. It would be good to hear even more from people on other possible topics, as well as potential users - and any thoughts folks have on what's been said so far. Meanwhile, best wishes to all Isabel This message is from: Isabel M Holroyd Chief Bibliographer & Editor biab online - the british & irish archaeological bibliography The British Academy 10 Carlton House Terrace London SW1Y 5AH website: http://www.biab.ac.uk telephone: 020 7969 5223 facsimile: 020 7969 5300 to email all biab staff use: [log in to unmask] Join CBA/YAC & buy CBA books through CBA online shop at: http://www.britarch.ac.uk/shop Diolch yn fawr -----Original Message----- From: The Forum for Information Standards in Heritage (FISH) [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Nick Boldrini Sent: 02 May 2006 10:30 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [FISH] FISH Factsheets Hi Isabel Factsheets would be a good idea. A key thing to consider with them, though, is who is the audience for the various sheets? For example, - digital archiving - there might be a number of audiences all of whom may need a slightly different slant (eg Contractors/ Local Societies- what is archiving and who does it; compared to eg Museums/other digital repositories - how do you digitally archive) One key audience for ALL factsheets would be Avocational archaeologist groups - ie Local Societies, Community Archaeology Projects, LHI funded groups etc. I have recently been in discussion with a few of these about how they can gear up to record data in a way that makes incorporation into the HER easier, and apart from threatening them with MIDAS and INSCRIPTION, which are useful but pretty alarming to the initiated, there is nothing between an informal chat with me and the full MIDAS docs for them to look at to ease into the idea of standards. I think in fact, that Local Societies and Contractors are the next key audience for Standards, especially if we want them all to use FISH XML (or is it MIDAS XL now?) to enable us to import their data easily hope that helps best wishes Nick Boldrini Historic Environment Record Officer Heritage Section Countryside Service North Yorkshire County Council County Hall Northallerton DL7 8AH Direct Dial (01609) 532331 Conserving North Yorkshire's heritage - encouraging sustainable access www.northyorks.gov.uk/archaeology This email is personal. It is not authorised by or sent on behalf of North Yorkshire County Council, however, the Council has the right and does inspect emails sent from and to its computer system. This email is the sole responsibility of the sender >>> [log in to unmask] 28/04/2006 13:47:48 >>> Hello All Making the work of FISH better understood, and more easily/widely used, by the whole Historic Environment community is seen as a key area for development. At recent FISH meetings - including the FISH communications meeting - the idea was put forward that it would be useful for FISH to create a series of Factsheets. The Factsheets are envisaged as clear, concise summaries of different standards' areas and their implementation. Taking the form of a reference sheet, they would fulfil a different function than that addressed by publications like ADS' `Guides to Good Practice..' series. The Factsheets could be authored in xml and available for download, as well as in hard-copy form. They should be stable and standard in digital form and durable in hard-copy form, to allow for regular use as quick-reference materials. They would be authored by the most authoritative organisation/person in each area covered, drawing on FISH membership and beyond if necessary/feasible. As an example, a `Digital Archiving' Factsheet. This would be authored by ADS, branded as both an ADS and FISH publication, and available from both FISH and ADS websites. What do people think? Are Factsheets a useful initiative? What subjects/areas could be covered? What formats should Factsheets be available in? Are there other issues that people think need discussion under this heading? Factsheets are of course only one possible output - they do not preclude other resource production or outreach initiatives. It would be really useful to hear what people think about this so please make your thoughts known. Look forward to hearing your ideas. 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