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> Why seeing this as a problem, and not a benefit and enrichment to the > pre-existing (or the only existing) reality. Together they create one > thing which is reality through the eyes of camera and is the only > reality. Because whether it is through the lense or not they are still > the same thing. > Roy Gokay Wol > Of course, they are the same and I like this idea of talking about film as being right before our eyes: In the end, two different types of reality become the one reality of the film seen and experienced. Not to see differences between the two modes of representation sometimes seems more sophisticated than making oneself belief that there are (ontological) differences that matter. But after all, what matters are aesthetic differences and that the spectator is enabled to making meaning in accordance with the aesthetic differences of the material. The use of archival material is wholly functional, as it is one means to offer an obvious contrast between two different visual styles or between two modes of narration. It can be used to make the film more interesting aesthetically, but as the film becomes more interesting, we are more compelled to attribute significance to it and to interpret it and to identify (ontological) differences. By the way, did anybody mention Woody Allen's *Zelig*. The film might proof me wrong because there aren't any visual differences: It's really only 'one reality' because of the film's integration of the main characters into the documentary material. But instead of visual contrast you have effects of incongruency, for example Woody Allen being part of a Nazi party convent in the 30s. But incongruency itself is neither very funny nor very entertaining, but in this case and in this context helpful in raising a variety thoughts about the jewishness of Allen, his identity crisis, history, the holocaust, the wish to change or to manipulate history via film, etc. It's really an enrichment to the pre-existing reality. Herbert ___________________________________________________________ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de * * Film-Philosophy Email Discussion Salon. After hitting 'reply' please always delete the text of the message you are replying to. To leave, send the message: leave film-philosophy to: [log in to unmask] For help email: [log in to unmask], not the salon. **