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Zizek's article is provocative as usual, and strikes me as particularly relevant to Spielberg's Munich, especially his claim that it is an ideological lie that people like Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland), can remain human while doing such monstrous acts. Interesting treatment of the same theme on Lost, in the person of the former Iraqi torturer Sayid "For beauty is the beginning of terror we are still able to bear, and why we love it so is because it so serenely disdains to destroy us" Rilke's First Duino Elegy Daniel Shaw website: www.lhup.edu/dshaw ________________________________ * * Film-Philosophy Email Discussion Salon. After hitting 'reply' please always delete the text of the message you are replying to. To leave, send the message: leave film-philosophy to: [log in to unmask] For help email: [log in to unmask], not the salon. **