"What Bordwell and Carroll are calling for is a piecemeal discussion of film that refuses to take a set of assumptions as defining the social interests of a certain group (the group in this case is professional academicians)." Dan I would say that this is precisely a philosophical call from Bordwell and Carroll, and ideological for that matter (in the non-pejorative sense). It might seem trivial to make this response, but I think it is important not to mistake what philosophy is and also make it a pejorative category, as for instance is often done with the category 'moral'. Ross * * Film-Philosophy Email Discussion Salon. After hitting 'reply' please always delete the text of the message you are replying to. To leave, send the message: leave film-philosophy to: [log in to unmask] For help email: [log in to unmask], not the salon. **