Bear of very little brain today, I'm afraid. Must be the pleasant weather. Does the section you have quoted mean that a private company, my own, for example, may charge £10 for the SAR and extra money for making copies? We are not subject to FoIA. -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Turner Sent: 04 July 2006 11:23 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] Cost of photocopying FOI Sections 68 onwards extend the definition of personal data. Section 69 is the bit being referred to here. Of course, the extension does not apply to the private sector. I'm not sure that this makes things more bearable. The private sector can use the Durant judgement, sometimes to unlikely and extreme conclusions, to withhold personal information. Section 68 etc increase the burden of complexity for the public sector, and allows the applicant to request any unstructured personal data. Effectively, you can make two requests to the public authority - standard subject access, and an additional request for unstructured personal data subject to the FOI charging regime. The fact that charging can be burdensome and complicated means that some PAs don't bother to get into the distinction - they charge the £10 and give everything. So it could mean more work, and poses a genuine question about whether it's worth spending the time trying to charge for it. Tim Turner Data Protection / FOI Officer Legal and Property Services Wigan Council -----Original Message----- From: Tim Trent [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tue 04 July 2006 11:05 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] Cost of photocopying Lucy, can you give a source for that information, please? I was always under the impression that it as £10 and £0 only. Your information makes the burden on an organisation bearable, I'm just struggling to locate it. -----Original Message----- From: FINCHAM LUCY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 04 July 2006 11:03 To: Tim Trent Subject: Re: [data-protection] Cost of photocopying Unless it is unstructured personal data held in manual form, in which case the same fee structure as for FOIA can be used (which includes charging for disbursements, if you so wish). Also if this unstructured manual data is Personnel related, it can be exempt if you want. Regards Lucy Date sent: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 10:50:33 +0100 Send reply to: Tim Trent <[log in to unmask]> From: Tim Trent <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Marketing Improvement Subject: Re: [data-protection] Cost of photocopying To: [log in to unmask] > I fear you have £10 and that is your lot. > > This is why a malicious campaign of SARs can have a serious impact on > the bottom line of any organisation. > > -----Original Message----- > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brenda Scourfield > Sent: 04 July 2006 09:10 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [data-protection] Cost of photocopying > > An old chestnut, but can someone remind me whether we can charge per > sheet for photocopying for a DP Subject Access Request. 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