That BT were not registered for 3 months is not a reputational issue. The UKIC generally is content for firms to admit to late notification and to regularise the situation That BT's SMS Self Service did not comply was a reputational issue B4U's use of old data is a reputational issue Clifford Chance's Airbus Industrie farrago is a reputational issue I do not want to be the person that chose not to care and thus caused my organisation to be pilloried over non compliance. -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ekin Caglar Sent: 21 July 2006 19:15 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] The Cost of Non-Compliance "Reputation" has always been the argument against non-compliance but it has been proven over and over again that big organisations have enough cache to fix any non-compliance problem. Remember BT, who weren't even on ICO's DP register until we pointed this out to them? How did this damage their reputation? I think it's the small organisations that are under threat and until the tables turn, we - the individuals who care about compliance - will remain a small community. Ekin -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kevin Broadfoot Sent: 21 July 2006 19:03 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] The Cost of Non-Compliance >"What is the real risk of non-compliance in FOI, DPA or EIR? Has >anybody been fined large sums of money? Has anybody lost their jobs?" Ask your accountant what value he puts on his own and/or the organisation's reputation and how much is a large sum. A couple of a years ago an accountant was fined £10K with £5K costs for a s55 offence plus named and shamed in the Commissioner’s annual report. Bet that looked good on the professional CV. And yes some people have lost their jobs – usually following the criminal conviction that brought them to notice. Don’t want to get it wrong too many times then! regards, Kevin Broadfoot ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^