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I agree completely.  It may not appear to matter much to people who are 
employed, since the copyright in anything they create in the course of their 
work belongs in any case, by default, to the employer.  But as someone who 
occasionally writes on a freelance basis I find there is a big difference 
between someone who asks if they may reuse my material - which I am almost 
always very happy to agree - and someone who reuses it without my 
permission, even if they give full credit to me as the author - which 
usually provokes a very snotty e-mail and an invoice for a licence to use 
the material.


Paul Ticher
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "C.Oppenheim" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: Private Eye Data Protection cartoon


>I take it Mr Landau would be just as relaxed about me borrowing his car 
>without permission for a quick spin in the country, as long as I refilled 
>his petrol so he lost nothing?  I am intrigued that someone on this list 
>(which is all about respecting one particular set of laws) should casually 
>recommend breaking another set of laws.  Partiocularly in view of the fact 
>that apparently Private Eye is generous in granting permissions, why not do 
>them the courtesy of requesting such permission?
>
> Charles
>
> Professor Charles Oppenheim
> Department of Information Science
> Loughborough University
> Loughborough
> Leics LE11 3TU
>
> Tel 01509-223065
> Fax 01509-223053
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nick Landau" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Private Eye Data Protection cartoon
>
>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "C.Oppenheim" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 9:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Private Eye Data Protection cartoon
>>
>>
>>> "Reporting current events" refers to, for example,  reproducing the text 
>>> of a recent speech by, or a video of, Tony Blair speaking, or copying 
>>> the video of a great goal from the World Cup. At the time of the 
>>> controversy over the Danish cartoons depicting Mohamed, one might have 
>>> reproduced them and claimed this was fair dealing for reporting current 
>>> events.   In other words, it's the common sense use of the phrase 
>>> "current events". Reproducing a cartoon about data protection is hardly 
>>> "current events", especially as the content of the cartoon is generic 
>>> and does not refer to some specific recent news story.
>>>
>>> You could do argue the case for criticism or review if the Private Eye 
>>> cartoon was being posted so that we could do a critical appraisal of the 
>>> cartoon's style and content, but that wasn't the idea, was it?  It was 
>>> to entertain us!  Review and criticism means just what is says on the 
>>> tin.
>>>
>>> In a nutshell, the terms used in the bit of the copyright act regarding 
>>> fair dealing need to be construed in common sense ways.....
>>>
>>
>> Any fair-minded person would I think that this is related to the scale of 
>> the thing. Using for a small professional journal as a bit of 
>> "entertainment" (and why not?) or training is hardly something to trouble 
>> a publisher.
>>
>> I understand that Charles' background includes working for large 
>> publishers.
>>
>> I don't really think what is being proposed will overturn the copyright 
>> laws.
>>
>> I think that we are making a mountain out of a molehill.
>>
>> Nick Landau
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