This is not entirely on topic but when being connected to a similar call centre in India for BT Openworld (before I went on to Broadband) they wanted to talk me through the connection problem I was having. Clearly as I was on BT Openworld (narrowband) if they were going to do that they would have to call me on another line to the one I was having the problems with. Therefore they called me back on my mobile number. Presumably this was done through a local link, and as it was BT who presumably can charge themselves what they decide for their internal SLA's they didn't have to worry about the call charges. Nick Landau > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Colyer" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 5:29 PM > Subject: Re: [data-protection] BT SMS service > > > Tony has made an interesting point. When my overhead line in my remote > area went down I spent a week trying to convince a BT call centre in India > that I was using a public telephone box some distance from my village to > speak to them. They found it difficult to appreciate that waiting hours at > a time in a phone box just to be connected to a live person was unhelpful, > and yes, even in England there are places where the mobile telephone does > not work so they couldn't ring me back when I returned home. I just had to > get this off my chest, but a full week trying to get my line repaired, > spending what felt like a lifetime in a smelly phone box, not being able > to use my telephone or computer at home was bad enough without now > realising that BT was spending all this time and energy in providing a > service which clearly is a DP nightmare. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Tim Trent > Sent: 02 February 2006 17:01 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: BT SMS service > > > How on earth did you find a number to call? > > -----Original Message----- > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tony Bowden > Sent: 02 February 2006 16:53 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [data-protection] BT SMS service > > This afternoon, I, along with presumably many millions of other BT > customers, received an email announcing their wonderful new SMS Self > Service > system. (http://www.bt.com/sms/) > > The basic gist is, send an SMS to 64364 asking "Paid <phone number>", and > they'll reply telling you when the bill for that line was last paid. > > There is nothing whatsoever to restrict this to the owner of the phone > line. > You can use this to find out when anyone with a BT line last paid. > > I phoned BT to complain, but neither of the two people I talked to seemed > to > even be aware of the service, and certainly didn't know how to handle > enquiries about the privacy implications of it. I'm currently waiting for > someone more senior to call me back. > > Surely this is a massive breach of Data Protection? I'm considering a > complaint to OFTEL, but perhaps this is one for the OIC as well? > > Tony > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > All archives of messages are stored permanently and are > available to the world wide web community at large at > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html > If you wish to leave this list please send the command > leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] > All user commands can be found at : - > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm > Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list > owner > [log in to unmask] > (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > All archives of messages are stored permanently and are > available to the world wide web community at large at > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html > If you wish to leave this list please send the command > leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] > All user commands can be found at : - > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm > Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list > owner > [log in to unmask] > (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > All archives of messages are stored permanently and are > available to the world wide web community at large at > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html > If you wish to leave this list please send the command > leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] > All user commands can be found at : - > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm > Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list > owner > [log in to unmask] > (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^