OK, I had in my mind doubling the 30 to 60 by 1pm today being "a substantial groundswell". Instead it hit 52. No groundswell at all. So I will take no action. But you all KNOW now. The setting is there, and you can set it if you want to. While we're about it, we are at 20% with the commercial use survey. Let no-one say they have been disenfranchised! Remember it closes on Monday. But then, unless you've been away you're not going to bother to vote now, are you? After all, there's bound to be someone else who has ticked your answers so there's no need, is there? _____ From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Trent Sent: 27 November 2006 16:20 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [data-protection] Us, here, and revealing our email details So far I think I can say with reasonable confidence that no-one has harvested my email address from this list to use in spam or for other nefarious purposes. I think that may be a mixture of JISCMail security and also the fact the I sent "SET * CONCEAL" to the list the moment I joined it. "Conceal" conceals your email address from all except logged in users, if I interpret the command correctly. 30 of us so far have set our status to "CONCEAL", but I think it would be worth everyone's while to consider doing so. I have also set the default status for new users to reflect this setting. I was prompted to do this by a search which could reveal information about any list member to the outside world. It revealed the following: BEGINS DATA-PROTECTION <http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A1=ind0507&L=data-protection> Archives - July 2005 ... From: Maurice Frankel <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:37:31 +0100 Data Protection in the UAE Data Protection in the UAE (56 lines) From: Tim Trent <[log in to ... http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A1=ind0507 <http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A1=ind0507&L=data-protection> &L=data-protection ENDS My search was http://tinyurl.com/v53gh and following it showed me the item above. And yes, I am sad enough to search for my own name, but it could have been a search on any of us. We have a dilemma, now, of course. As moderators we could switch at a stroke every user to CONCEAL. Our challenge is that users control their own destiny, and we "ought not to". So, since new users are safeguarded, we will leave it at present to individuals to alter those settings. However a sudden and substantial groundswell will lead to the switch being flipped centrally to save everyone from faffing about. I don't mean "Make representations on the list." PLEASE DON'T. 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