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I happened to be listening to Vanessa Feltz this morning on BBC London and a 
short while after proudly saying that she didn't use the Internet gave the 
website link for her programme - no doubt as part of the branding of the 
programme/station.

Nick Landau

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Trent" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [data-protection] List management things


> Well, that is why we can each set what we please, Nigel.
>
> However, the JISCMail list does not allow anyone to track who has opened 
> an
> email let alone  at what time.  You may check this with the helpline at 
> any
> time.
>
> I had expected this reaction from someone, but it really goes back to the
> concept of people "disliking people using their internet", rather than
> giving all users the free choice they wish for.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nigel Roberts
> Sent: 23 November 2006 14:12
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] List management things
>
> HTML is very much a retrograde step.
>
> HTML was designed for web pages -- it does not map exactly to email.
>
> Yecch.
>
> Tim Trent wrote:
>> Since we enabled HMTL I have had one peculiarity reported to me, and
>> the helpline is looking at it currently.  A Netscape user is receiving
>> both the TEXT version and an "unrendered" HTML version in text format.
>> Naturally he is perplexed.  Me, too, so I have asked the helpline to
> advise us both.
>>
>> Meanwhile I can commend HTML mode to you.  Experiment by sending "set
>> * HTML" (for all lists) or "set data-protection HTML" for this list
>> alone to [log in to unmask]  It does make emails somewhat more
>> "as the sender intended" (this one mini-glitch notwithstanding), and
>> you can always set it back if you do not like it.
>>
>> All new users will join as HTML users from now on, but any setting may
>> be changed by any user at any time and as often as desired.
>>
>> What we are trying to do now we've actually started to understand how
>> to configure the list is to make it better for all of us, and letting
>> us use all the options available when we submit items to the list.
>>
>> There is even an IRC-like chatroom! (accessed from the web)  It's
>> available for anyone to use, but no-one tends to lurk there waiting
>> for people to talk to them.  A good use might be to find a topic of
>> interest to a small or wide part of our community, announce a data and
>> time, and have a discussion.  I suspect the early ones will be a bit
>> like one handed clapping, but they should grow.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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