I happened to be listening to Vanessa Feltz this morning on BBC London and a short while after proudly saying that she didn't use the Internet gave the website link for her programme - no doubt as part of the branding of the programme/station. Nick Landau ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Trent" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [data-protection] List management things > Well, that is why we can each set what we please, Nigel. > > However, the JISCMail list does not allow anyone to track who has opened > an > email let alone at what time. You may check this with the helpline at > any > time. > > I had expected this reaction from someone, but it really goes back to the > concept of people "disliking people using their internet", rather than > giving all users the free choice they wish for. > > -----Original Message----- > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nigel Roberts > Sent: 23 November 2006 14:12 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [data-protection] List management things > > HTML is very much a retrograde step. > > HTML was designed for web pages -- it does not map exactly to email. > > Yecch. > > Tim Trent wrote: >> Since we enabled HMTL I have had one peculiarity reported to me, and >> the helpline is looking at it currently. A Netscape user is receiving >> both the TEXT version and an "unrendered" HTML version in text format. >> Naturally he is perplexed. Me, too, so I have asked the helpline to > advise us both. >> >> Meanwhile I can commend HTML mode to you. Experiment by sending "set >> * HTML" (for all lists) or "set data-protection HTML" for this list >> alone to [log in to unmask] It does make emails somewhat more >> "as the sender intended" (this one mini-glitch notwithstanding), and >> you can always set it back if you do not like it. >> >> All new users will join as HTML users from now on, but any setting may >> be changed by any user at any time and as often as desired. >> >> What we are trying to do now we've actually started to understand how >> to configure the list is to make it better for all of us, and letting >> us use all the options available when we submit items to the list. >> >> There is even an IRC-like chatroom! (accessed from the web) It's >> available for anyone to use, but no-one tends to lurk there waiting >> for people to talk to them. A good use might be to find a topic of >> interest to a small or wide part of our community, announce a data and >> time, and have a discussion. I suspect the early ones will be a bit >> like one handed clapping, but they should grow. >> >> >> >> >> Tim Trent - Consultant >> Direct: +44(0)1344 392644 Mobile:+44(0)7710 126618 >> email: [log in to unmask] >> <blocked::mailto:[log in to unmask]> >> Marketing Improvement Limited, Abbey House, Grenville Place, >> Bracknell, United Kingdom, RG12 1BP >> <blocked::http://www.marketingimprovement.com/> >> http://www.marketingimprovement.com >> >> >> >> >> >> Important: This mail contains proprietary information some or all of >> which may be legally privileged. It is for the intended recipient >> only. 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