In a council it generally refers to the role, but having said that if
someone starts "stalking" who holds that role whether you call that person
the Chief Exec or Fred Smith that would clearly be personal infringement.
So I think it is fair to say that it all depends on the specifics of the
case.
Nick Landau
---- Original Message ----
From: "Jethro R Binks" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Councils using cc lists for a mailing
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, Tim Trent wrote:
>
>> I know this sounds like a broken record, but yes, by itself, at any
>> time.
>>
>> If there is one person in the position of Chief Executive, no matter
>> who that person is, no matter what the date, that email is capable,
>> when seen, of identifying a particular living individual.
>>
>> It does not matter that yesterday it was Jethro Binks and today it
>> is Tim Trent, nor that tomorrow it will be Angela Rippon. What
>> matters is that it is capable of identifying at any time the unique
>> living individual who holds the position of chief executive.
>
> I'm afraid I still do not understand. Or rather, I think understand
> what you are saying, but I do not see how without corroborative
> information you can know which Chief Executive was being referred to
> in an undated
> document quoting [log in to unmask], and hence
> how
> it can uniquely identify one person. I can see how it might identify
> the occupant of the role at the time you're referring to such
> document, but
> not any more than that, other than it was one of a set of known
> occupants of that role.
>
> But when your Chief Exec's position becomes availble, let me know!
>
> Jethro.
>
>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jethro R Binks
>> Sent: 18 October 2006 23:52
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Councils using cc lists for a mailing
>>
>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Tim Trent wrote:
>>
>>> Jethro, it's an email address, in an email, which has a date. But,
>>> date notwithstanding, it identifies a unique living individual.
>>>
>>> Even in an undated document it identifies the unique individual in
>>> post at the time.
>>>
>>> In either case it is personal data.
>>
>> ... with the additional data - the date of reference. Not by itself.
>>
>> Jethro.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jethro R Binks
>>> Sent: 18 October 2006 22:23
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Councils using cc lists for a mailing
>>>
>>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Tim Trent wrote:
>>>
>>>> Er, yes. So it identifies him. Not who he was, nor who he might
>>>> become, but him, now, today. And it is personal data.
>>>
>>> It identifies the Chief Executive, as it was at the time of the
>>> reference to the email address. If the reference is in an undated
>>> document, it doesn't necessarily identify Chief Exec 2005 or Chief
>>> Exec 2006, so you don't know which natural person it relates to.
>>> Just one in a likely set.
>>>
>>> So whether it identifies any natural person depends on the context
>>> this particular data is obtained or used. And I think this is true
>>> of many aspects in the argument relating to whether an 'email
>>> address' is personal data or not.
>>>
>>> Jethro.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jethro R Binks
>>>> Sent: 18 October 2006 16:12
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Councils using cc lists for a
>>>> mailing
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Tim Trent wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [log in to unmask] is personal - there is
>>>>> only one of him
>>>>
>>>> At a particular time. It says nothing about a year ago or a year
>>>> in the future though.
>>>>
>>>> Jethro.
>>>
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