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Well, no, it is not.  It is down to theft of data, either within the data
controller itself, or within the outsourcer, or en route somewhere.  It is
to do with the inherent worth of your name, address, phone number, credit
card (if available).

It is also to do with securing (or not securing) data collection and
transmission with SSL technology/certificates, but probably this data
escapes at a "malefactor within" level more easily.

Bear in mind that I can store the entire contents of pretty much any
organisations contact database on a USB stick......  I think you get the
picture.

This is entirely separate from the bank requiring you to identify yourself
to them and your requiring them to identify themselves to you.

-----Original Message-----
From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Hasan
Sent: 11 October 2006 09:56
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] OIC investigates CH4 Dispatche allegations

A lot of this is down to bad DP practice by banks. We had a discussion on
this list a while ago, which I initiated, when my bank's staff kept ringing
wanting to discuss my account but first wanted me to tell them my personal
details.

Ibrahim Hasan
 
Solicitor and Trainer
www.informationlaw.org.uk
www.actnow.org.uk
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Tel : 07808 079264
 
 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Roland Perry
Sent: 10 October 2006 21:51
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] OIC investigates CH4 Dispatche allegations

In message
<[log in to unmask]>, at
14:48:38 on Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Paul Dodgson <[log in to unmask]> writes
>Following with interest, my wife got and SMS yesterday and the list 
>they were using was clearly out of date, we left orange for vodaphone 
>over a year ago.

I regularly get scammers claiming to be working for Orange calling my phone
and asking me to "confirm" various details. Like what tariff I'm on. If they
were really working for Orange I would expect them to know that already.
When I say I'm on no tariff at all (I've left Orange, but taken the number)
they generally get very confused. My assumption is that they call phones in
the "Orange" number range at random.
--
Roland Perry

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