On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 02:19:49PM +0100, Antoinette Carter wrote: > Less waste = less cost = better society. > Now there's a Friday afternoon belter if ever I saw one! I wouldn't agree that making an SAR, or dealing with one, is "waste". That seems to be an axiom of your argument though, so I doubt we're going to be able to find much agreement on the follow-ons! I don't think I agree either that "less cost = better society". I'm certainly all for smaller government, but I'm not sure I'm ready to get rid of it completely! :) I agree that less waste = better society, but eliminating costs randomly wouldn't really be a good thing. You need to reduce the correct costs, and I don't think that DP and/or FOI costs are the right ones to minimise, per se. My equation looks more like: More transparency = more openness = better society > I can understand why you might not mind wasting some of Tesco's huge > corporate profit In Tesco's case I wouldn't be surprised if they'd gotten it down to not even running at a loss at all. They've probably got the human time down to a minimum, but I guess the volume of information they store means the paper, printing & postage bill would probably eat up most of the tenner! (I'm not sure if the "it costs more than 10 pounds to handle a 10 pound cheque would apply here either as presumably Tesco handle many thousands of cheques a day anyway). > but bombard your local council with unnecessary DSARs > and your council tax will go up; as will your neighbours'. Is that > really a good thing? I've never actually made an SAR from my council (perhaps I should - might be interesting!), just lots of FOI requests, and I believe that the long term effects of open government outweigh any short-term costs that may be incurred whilst trying to get there... Tony ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^