On Thu, 23 Nov 2006, Tim Trent wrote:
> Well, that is why we can each set what we please, Nigel.
The issue is the default setting.
> I had expected this reaction from someone, but it really goes back to
> the concept of people "disliking people using their internet", rather
> than giving all users the free choice they wish for.
And so they can. They can have a 'safe' default, which is compatible with
all mail systems, or they can use their free right to choose and select a
format which does not work for all systems and carries many implications,
giving them the responsibility for determining for themselves whether or
not it is appropriate for their environment.
Making HTML the default is plain irresponsible, and against all security
and notional best practice.
Can we have another survey to solicit opinions? :)
Jethro.
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> HTML is very much a retrograde step.
>
> HTML was designed for web pages -- it does not map exactly to email.
>
> Yecch.
>
> Tim Trent wrote:
> > Since we enabled HMTL I have had one peculiarity reported to me, and
> > the helpline is looking at it currently. A Netscape user is receiving
> > both the TEXT version and an "unrendered" HTML version in text format.
> > Naturally he is perplexed. Me, too, so I have asked the helpline to
> advise us both.
> >
> > Meanwhile I can commend HTML mode to you. Experiment by sending "set
> > * HTML" (for all lists) or "set data-protection HTML" for this list
> > alone to [log in to unmask] It does make emails somewhat more
> > "as the sender intended" (this one mini-glitch notwithstanding), and
> > you can always set it back if you do not like it.
> >
> > All new users will join as HTML users from now on, but any setting may
> > be changed by any user at any time and as often as desired.
> >
> > What we are trying to do now we've actually started to understand how
> > to configure the list is to make it better for all of us, and letting
> > us use all the options available when we submit items to the list.
> >
> > There is even an IRC-like chatroom! (accessed from the web) It's
> > available for anyone to use, but no-one tends to lurk there waiting
> > for people to talk to them. A good use might be to find a topic of
> > interest to a small or wide part of our community, announce a data and
> > time, and have a discussion. I suspect the early ones will be a bit
> > like one handed clapping, but they should grow.
> >
> >
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