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On this point (and I'm finding this whole naming of the seas fascinating - the North Sea used to be called the Germanic Ocean and I never realised the North Sea is also part of the Atlantic Ocean - so in actual fact we're surrounded by the Atlantic Ocean - I don't think I've ever fully realised this. I'm sure I'm not the only one. But if, for example, the English Channel is called a different name by the French surely their must be Celtic names for the shores around Ireland - I'm sure the Manx and Welsh will have their own name for their surrounding sea? Is it just down to which map you look at? I saw one of those wonderful 'upside-down maps of the world where Australia is on top of the world.(Oh gawd - in more ways than one at the moment - let's not think about it). Anyway, other than cricket, it's quite disorientating even though we know we're a floating globe in a big space with no up or down we are coerced into seeing the world in this order of super powers on top and the rest below. G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hampson R" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: Re: All My Seas Aren't Yours Dear Kit, It is not just the Celtic Sea. There is also the Celtic archipelago which suffered at the hands of imperialist British geographers. Robert -----Original Message----- From: British & Irish poets [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kit Fryatt Sent: Tuesday 05 December 2006 8:34 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: All My Seas Aren't Yours The Celtic Sea thing actually does make good sense when you consider cultural links with the Iberian peninsula. But I'd never heard of it before. Darned imperial British geography lessons. K.