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I spoke to Shay yesterday and he has given me some more info about the "Talking Without Talking" (TWT) software but he did not have a definitive list of the S60 phones that are compatible. I will post the info to the list when I get back to work on Friday - hoping that he has forwarded the S60 list by then. The software looks very interesting - there's a demo here - requires sound card or it won't make a lot of sense :) http://www.silentcom.com/sc.html Although he said that he was in Canada, from the website and his phone number it looks like it is based in Israel. He is running a pilot at the moment, offering the software free to people with disabilities, either as a download or he can text it direct to a mobile number. Will send the other info soon - or email him (address on website)as he is very keen to know what level of interest there might be in cheap VOCA software for mobiles. He was talking about 5 - 10 euro's per licence, if he can't persuade the mobile operators to include it as standard software. Best wishes, Liz Panton Communicate