Some of Sir Ian Blair's public defenders state that senior people expect their calls to be recorded by other senior people. Because I'm not in that world, I don't know if it's true or not. This is the DP issue for me - did the people Sir Ian was speaking have a reasonable expectation that the calls would be recorded? Given the reaction reported by the Attorney General's spokespersons, this interpretation seems unlikely. Therefore, I vote that this could well be unfair processing, but that as none of the data subjects is likely to be annoyed enough to complain to the Information Commissioner, the matter is unlikely to be resolved one way or another. The lesson would appear to be that unless you are deliberately attempting to be secret (and it doesn't sound like Sir Ian was), it's better to be entirely open, even to the point of stating the obvious. Tim Turner Wigan Council -----Original Message----- From: Iain Harrison [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 14 March 2006 10:44 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] The other Blair As to the legality, processing for personal/domestic purposes perhaps? That said,if it was done from work, with the intention to use in future? Iain Iain Harrison Information Management Consultant Information Management & Contracts Leicester City Council 0116 252 7606 >>> Ibrahim Hasan <[log in to unmask]> 03/13/06 5:52 pm >>> Colleagues will have noticed this story about Ian Blair recording telephone conversations with officials. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4801032.stm The BBC only offers a short paragraph on the legalities. I would be interested to hear colleagues' views. DPA, RIPA, HRA or all three ? I think it turns on, in what capacity was he recording the calls. Ibrahim Hasan Act Now Training www.actnow.org.uk Information Law Training for the Public Sector ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses using Sophos anti-virus software. www.mimesweeper.com www.sophos.com ********************************************************************** ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^