Aloha, On 12/4/2005 at 11:10 AM J Blain wrote: >Be warned that some people within Heathenry - more in the US than >here, I think - get awfully upset and start shouting if it's >speculated that seidr was/is shamanic! My only experience of seidr has been as a guest of an SF Bay Area group that certainly took a shamanic approach in their reconstruction/ revival of the practice. I was told that this approach did differ from other reconstructions/revivals in other parts of the US, but I didn't pick up that the shamanic aspect was a big part of it. I was probably dizzy and my ears were ringing. Musing Isn't It All Good Fun To *Go Ask Odin*? Rose, Pitch