Hi Mark Can you ask Ian Parker what he meant by, " There is an overlap between what I try to do under the rubric 'critical psychology' - in which I take my distance from the 'postmodern' relativist merely academic attempt to carve out a market niche for the 'criticals'- and what Mark is doing in the sphere of 'community psychology'", please? Was he saying that one of the principal uses of postmodernism is as a selling point for "critical" workers in the academic market? Thanks PS To clarify my intentions in asking the question, I am interested in what his clarification meant and how the term "postmodern" may be useful in different ways in different contexts. Carl -----Original Message----- From: Mark Burton [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 13 December 2005 14:45 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] On being critical again - clarification from Ian Parker MMU Ian Parker has asked me to post this, which clarifies the position between those known as 'critical psychologists' and those known as 'community psychologists' in and around the Manchester Metropolitan University (MMU). __________________________________________________________________ I have seen Mark's provocative contribution on the difference between the use of a critical theoretical framework on the one hand and the worst of simple critical complaint on the other. Mark and I agree about lots of things, but I count him as one of my comrades in the attempt to engage in genuine constructive critical theoretical work. There is an overlap between what I try to do under the rubric 'critical psychology' - in which I take my distance from the 'postmodern' relativist merely academic attempt to carve out a market niche for the 'criticals' - and what Mark is doing in the sphere of 'community psychology'. This overlap is where we stand together, community and criticals, at MMU. Ian Parker -- From Mark Burton Manchester UK ___________________________________ COMMUNITYPSYCHUK - The discussion list for community psychology in the UK. To unsubscribe or to change your details visit the website: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/COMMUNITYPSYCHUK.HTML For any problems or queries, contact the list moderator at [log in to unmask] or [log in to unmask] This material has been checked by us for computer viruses using InoculateIT and although no virus has been found by us, we cannot guarantee that it is completely free from such problems and we do not accept any liability for loss or damage which may be caused. This communication is intended solely for the addressee and is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any information, materials, graphics, and/or opinions posted by the Sender are those of the respective Sender and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of Birmingham Children's Hospital NHS Trust unless explicitly stated to the contrary. ___________________________________ COMMUNITYPSYCHUK - The discussion list for community psychology in the UK. To unsubscribe or to change your details visit the website: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/COMMUNITYPSYCHUK.HTML For any problems or queries, contact the list moderator at [log in to unmask] or [log in to unmask]