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Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:22
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Subject: Re: [GP-Climate] Biofuels &
forest]
Surely that should
ENCOURAGE people who believe we are at the end of the era of economic growth
to vote Green - if the Green Party takes the lead in proposing a sustainable
alternative. By doing so, of course, it won't get elected for some time,
but I am sure you are used to that. Why bother with people expecting the
Greens to run the economy in a conventional way? Set your sights some
way into the future, when a few climatic disasters might bring people to their
senses.
Jim Scott
PS I have stood for the former Ecology
Party in the 1983 parliamentary election, and had a lot of fun goading William
Waldergrave in Bristol West.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 12:54
AM
Subject: Re: [GP-Climate] Biofuels &
forest]
> The trouble is that it is the ending of the current economic
ideology
> that puts people off voting Green.
>
> I was
speaking to a fellow student from the UEA People and Planet branch
>
earlier this week and she would not vote Green if she thought we would
> be likely to form a national government because she thought Greens
could
> not run the economy.
>
> I don't know what to do
about this
>
> Chris Keene
>
> Chris wrote:
>
>> These sorts of stories highlight the impossibility of trying to
>> maintain current Western lifestyles through 'renewable' energy
>> sources. The only answer is a reduction of energy used, which
would
>> spell the end of the current economic
ideology.
>>
>> Boo hoo.
>>
>>
Chris
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Keene"
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>> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:39
AM
>> Subject: [Fwd: [GP-Climate] Biofuels &
forest]
>>
>>
>>> -------- Original Message
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>>> Subject: [GP-Climate] Biofuels &
forest
>>> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:09:37 +0000
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>>> http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18825265.400 22 November
>>> 2005 Forests paying the price
for biofuels
>>> THE drive for "green energy" in the developed
world is having the
>>> perverse effect of encouraging the
destruction of tropical
>>> rainforests. From the orang-utan
reserves of Borneo to the Brazilian
>>> Amazon, virgin forest is
being razed to grow palm oil and soybeans to
>>> fuel cars and
power stations in Europe and North America. And surging
>>>
prices are likely to accelerate the destruction
>>> The rush to
make energy from vegetable oils is being driven in part
>>> by
European Union laws requiring conventional fuels to be blended
>>> with biofuels, and by subsidies equivalent to 20 pence a
litre. Last
>>> week, the British government announced a target
for biofuels to make
>>> up 5 per cent of transport fuels by
2010. The aim is to help meet
>>> Kyoto protocol targets for
reducing greenhouse-gas emissions....
>>>
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