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David

Thanks for that.  I think we wouldn't be able to do any skills-based stuff on groups because it would not be the right forum for that.  What I think we would want to include is some theoretical stuff on the history of groupwork, the perils and pitfalls, how you decide when to use groups and when to use individualk interventions etc.

Really that would be the basis for the course in general.  We would leave the skills-based stuff to the practitioners out there who can deliver it and try to turn out people who (even if they didn't know how to do TC pracitce - and I would assume many applicants would know the how stuff before they enrolled) knew why it might be a good idea!

Sorry that was a bit of a convoluted sentence - but hopefully you get the idea.



Rowdy Yates 
Senior Research Fellow
Scottish Addiction Studies
Sociology, Social Policy & Criminology Section
Department of Applied Social Science
University of Stirling

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> From: 	Therapeutic Communities on behalf of David Warren-Holland
> Reply To: 	Therapeutic Communities
> Sent: 	Monday, September 5, 2005 2:30 PM
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> Subject: 	Re: Developing Postgrad Learning for TC staff
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> Hello Rowdy, 
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> Go for it,   a course like you suggest  much needed in the field and well overdue.  
> 
> I don't know of anything like it in the UK, and as you know I am in the training business,   
> my guess is  that there would be a demand for it. 
> 
>  It would be good however  to see a group skills training element somewhere in the format, as so much group work goes on in TC's 
> 
> Warmest wishes 
> Dave 
> 
> On 5 Sep 2005, at 13:39, Rowdy Yates wrote: 
> 
> 
> 	Hi  
> 
> 	This is just a brief request for feedback.  As you may know, Scottish Addiction Studies at University of Stirling offers a number of on-line courses.  We are currently considering putting together a postgraduate certificate on TC methodology and practice.  The intention would be to put together lecture material in on-line format which would cover theory and practice in all types of TC - NHS psychiatric TCs, addiction TCs, children's TCs etc.  In outline, tthe course would probably look similar to our course - PG Cert. European Studies in Substance Misuse  ( http://www.dass.stir.ac.uk/sections/scot-ad/eurostudies.php ).  That is, there would be two modules each of 30 credits.  The first module would comprise around 20 on-line lectures hopefully including some ATC/ EFTC luminaries as guest lecturers.  The second module would include a practice placement in an appropriate TC and an individual study project (dissertation) based upon original data  collected during the placement.  Those who wished to do so, could combine their study of this course with the PG Cert. European Studies in Substance Misuse giving them a postgraduate diploma.  In that case, completion of a 60 credit dissertation would  lead to a full Masters. 
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> 	That's the general idea.  I have four queries  
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> 	1.  Is there a general demand for a course of this kind?  
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> 	2. Is the format outlined appropriate?  
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> 	3. Would SAS be the right people to deliver it or would it send out the wrong signals about TC (and the course) being all about addiction? 
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> 	4. Would TCs generally welcome such a course and be prepared to manage placements?  
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> 	This is an idea which is very much at the drawing board stage. I would very much welcome your thoughts and comments.  
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> 	Rowdy Yates  
> 	Senior Research Fellow  
> 	Scottish Addiction Studies  
> 	Sociology, Social Policy & Criminology Section  
> 	Department of Applied Social Science  
> 	University of Stirling  
> 
> 	W: http://www.dass.stir.ac.uk/sections/scot-ad/  
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> 	T: +44(0)1786 - 467737  
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> 	M: 07960 - 403392>   
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