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You are arguing for hegemonic monoculture then where there is but one set of societal norms and there are no rights to campaign and argue in reasonable debate for different way of doing things. Take the disability out of the arguement and then look at what you are saying, are you not like the French Government who decree the hejab is not an acceptable social norm in French Schools and cannot be excused. It will be your turn next, no matter what you say to find your norms unacceptable, even the norms of entrapreneurial culture are not set in stone and have changed in responsce to legislation and regulation. You lable yourself and use language to discriminate for in your very choice of the phrases you use, you are choosing how to express yourself and how you wish your words to be interpreted, and I take them as a pejorative against Colin Larry > -----Original Message----- > From: The Disability-Research Discussion List > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Simon Stevens ( > Enable Enterprises) > Sent: 26 September 2005 05:06 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [DISABILITY-RESEARCH] colin revel > > > I am aware I will be criticized for being honest but I feel there > is a great > deal of hypocrisy going on, I feel is the wrong for fashion, political > correctness and personal guilt, yes I said it, to be used to justify a > single member to use the group for their personal agenda. > > Having any label does not excuse a person from their responsibilities to > respect other people and conduct themselves appropriately within the > boundaries of a diverse society. Just because I use a helmet and a bib at > mealtimes, I am not excused from the social norms of society as a > entrepreneur > > Yet, fashion argues that people who label themselves in a specific way are > excused from social norms and as they are perceived as above being > challenged, are praised in a manner where others would be dealt with. > > I feel this group once again needs to decide if it is about disability > research which seems never to represent the every day experiences of > disabled people, or simply a mouthpiece for a specific viewpoint? > > -- > -- > Simon Stevens > Chief Executive, Enable Enterprises > See us at; Independent Living London 2005 > 21-22nd September 2005 - Stand J70 - Alexandra Palace - London > http://london.independentlivingevents.co.uk/ > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Disability-Research Discussion List > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mark Wilson > Sent: 26 September 2005 00:34 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [DISABILITY-RESEARCH] colin revel > > Dear Jeremy > > One can simply ask the list about how to block or redirect mail > without having to name people on the list - that in my view is where > the bad etiquette lies > > Sincerely > > Mark Wilson > > > > At 06:15 PM 9/25/2005, Jeremy Wickins wrote: > >Dear David, > > > >I think it is bad netiquette to accuse someone of bad faith on > insufficient > >evidence. The comments you make about feelings apply to all. I don't > >think that > >there is any evidence in the e-mail that Alan initially sent that he was > >attacking Colin. As I said in my earlier e-mail, the inference > that I drew > was > >that the quantity of e-mails that Colin sends could be perceived as > >overwhelming, depending on one's interests. Not everyone wants to read > >everything from a particular list, and certain posters can be so > irritating > to > >an individual that they want a way to automatically block them. I > >redirect some > >mail from this list and others to a special folder which I look > at when I'm > >feeling suitably sanguine! Also, not everyone knows how to redirect or > block > >mail - simple things are only simple if you know how to do them. I > >regard it as > >a good sign that people who use the mailing list are willing to ask for > advice > >on this sort of thing, and risking being "flamed" does us no good at all. > > > >Yours, > > > >Jeremy. > > > >-- > >Jeremy Wickins, > >PhD Researcher, Biometrics and Social Exclusion, > >Sheffield Institute of Biotechnological Law and Ethics (SIBLE), > >Department of Law, > >University of Sheffield, > >169/171, Northumberland Road, > >Crookesmoor, > >Sheffield. S10 1DF > >UK. > > > >Tel: +44 (0)114 222 6881 > >Fax: +44 (0)114 222 6886 > > > > > > > >Quoting "David P. Dillard" <[log in to unmask]>: > > > > > I am in total agreement with Margaret Herrington in regard to the > > > importance and excellent quality of the email posts of Colin Revel to > this > > > Disabilities discussion group and consider it in very bad nettiquette > for > > > someone to make an ad hominem attack on an individual poster under the > > > misdirection of claiming a lack of understanding of the methodology of > > > deleting email from an inbox. This list has a public archive > and anyone > > > can join this list set at no mail and read the posts they wish on the > > > public archives for this list. I hope others on this list > are thankful > > > for the hard work and effort taken by Colin Revel in providing us with > > > such important information sources, his posts have been the > best part of > > > my membership on this list thus far. I wonder if the people who send > > > these messages attacking the work or in this case the large volume of > work > > > of another individual publically and for the whole internet to see > > > consider the fact that the person attacked has feelings and that these > > > kinds of attacks are hurtful and unkind to that person. > > > Many thanks from me to Margaret Herrington for her very kind response > > > regarding this matter. > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > David Dillard > > > Temple University > > > (215) 204 - 4584 > > > [log in to unmask] > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/net-gold> > > > <http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/ringleaders/davidd.html> > > > <http://www.kovacs.com/medref-l/medref-l.html> > > > <http://listserv.temple.edu/archives/net-gold.html> > > > <http://www.LIFEofFlorida.org> > > > Digital Divide Network > > > <http://www.digitaldivide.net/profile/jwne> > > > > > > ==================================================== > > > > > > On Sun, 25 Sep 2005, Margaret Herrington wrote: > > > > > > > I don't find Colin Revel 's output too dominating?...I > don't know him > at > > > all > > > > but have been grateful for a range of items which he has sent out to > the > > > > forum. > > > > > > > > In a message dated 25/09/05 14:07:03 GMT Daylight Time, > > [log in to unmask] > > > > writes: > > > > > > > Hello I am a member of this group and dont really want the task of > > > deleting > > > > colins emails. His output is too dominating for any group. I > > have already > > > > left one such group. I would like to remain a member but > not receive > > > emails but > > > > look at them on the groups page. How do i do this? > > > > > > > > > > Ms M Herrington > > > > Educational Consultant > > > > > > > Visiting Professor of Education, > > > > University of Wolverhampton > > > > > > > Special Lecturer in Continuing Education > > > > University of Nottingham > > > > [log in to unmask] > > > > > > > Home contact details: > > > > The Old School > > > > Main Street, > > > > Tilton on the Hill > > > > Leicestershire LE7 9LF > > > > 0116 2597361 > > > > > > ________________End of message______________________ > > > > > > Archives and tools for the Disability-Research Discussion List > > > are now located at: > > > > > > www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html > > > > > > You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page. > > > > > > >________________End of message______________________ > > > >Archives and tools for the Disability-Research Discussion List > >are now located at: > > > >www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html > > > >You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page. > > ________________End of message______________________ > > Archives and tools for the Disability-Research Discussion List > are now located at: > > www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html > > You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page. > > ________________End of message______________________ > > Archives and tools for the Disability-Research Discussion List > are now located at: > > www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html > > You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page. > ________________End of message______________________ Archives and tools for the Disability-Research Discussion List are now located at: www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page.