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Marc, Many thanks for the clarification. Interesting that it originated in the UK by the group you cite. I was aware that the concept and term has been in use across the pond for many years in relation to the Federal requirements for identifying and managing records as distinct from non-records and have heard it referred to as such by colleagues there. I guess we must have exported it!! Regards, Eldin. _____ From: The UK Records Management mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Fresko, Marc Sent: 07 July 2005 13:48 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Declaring a record - origin? Liz, As far as the phrase goes, my recollection is that we settled on it as a group while working on the (then) PRO/CCTA "Functional Requirements for EDRMS" in about 1999. There was no preferred phrase in use at that time that everyone agreed on. I'd be amazed if the source of the idea of deciding whether something should or should not be a record actually originates from an American CFR, but I could be mistaken... Marc Fresko _____ From: The UK Records Management mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Liz Scott-Wilson Sent: 07 July 2005 12:09 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Declaring a record - origin? We are writing an information governance framework to sit alongside our new information policies. Does anyone know the genesis of the specific concept of "declaring a record"? Is there any legislative, regulatory or other source or mandate? In particular, the phrase itself and associated meaning, rather the concept of a document becoming a record. Regards, Liz _________________________________ Liz Scott-Wilson IM Project Manager [log in to unmask] 020-8356-2776 077-4681-5317 For more on the Information Management Project, visit our web page at <http://www.hackney.gov.uk/imp.htm> http://www.hackney.gov.uk/imp.htm London Borough of Hackney may exercise its right to intercept any communication on its networks - for more information see http://www.hackney.gov.uk/email_disclaimer.html