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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Sorry, my late-night mistake. It's 'facultatem liberam' and he's asking for that, and a 'licentiam tribunalis' from a Bishop. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: Cyprosen To: [log in to unmask] Sent: 15 July 2005 20:05 Subject: Re: [M-R] translation of 'facultas liberam' medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture "Liberam" doesn't seem to go with "facultas". Can you supply more of the context? Cyprian Rosen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Laura Jacobus Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 6:19 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [M-R] translation of 'facultas liberam' I've come across the phrase 'facultas liberam' in a 13thC petition and would like to know if it's a standard one, and if so how one would translate it. Niermeyer ducks out of translating 'liber', referring readers to various scholarly articles in German (which I can't follow well enough), but I'd be perticularly interested to know if it can mean 'free from sin' as well as 'free from restraint'. The petitioner is asking for a number of different things, and 'free faculty' and 'free patrimony' are both possible translations in the context, so it would be most helpful to know if others have come across the phrase. many thanks for any suggestions Laura ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html