I think it is more accurate to say that we all care about beliefs, especially those we do not share, when they stand to affect our lives--when they are brought into the "political arena," which can be any public space. Singling out "religious beliefs" as particularly problematic indicates a special prejudice against them. Someone arguing policy from some basis in a religious anthropology, for instance, is liable to be differentiated from someone arguing from a non-religious--maybe a materialist--anthropology. The only neutral description of the situation is that there are competing first principles and conflicted rationalities in play. They are structurally identical, however, and it is only the foreignness or provenance of one that concerns me, or inclines me to consider it suspect or harmful. If I label it "religious" or "irreligious" I have committed myself to a position in the conflict. Often this commitment is made against the "religious" position while one's neutrality is also averred (usually sincerely) by upholding a "separate but equal" doctrine. But the presumption that religion and politics can be separated cleanly or that there is some legal basis for this--and that they have separate arenas (the private and the public)--is a myth and a very useful one (to some more than others) for certain purposes. But if it is mystified as a point of quasi-religious doctrine itself, it can be demystified--and is has been, to a good extent. The myth of a public sphere and a political rationality shorn of religion belongs to an age that may well be passing and is looking rather shopworn. I am surprised that this is not recognized and discussed with intelligence more among scholars of early modern Europe. But if Ralph Reed strikes a person as a horribly disturbing or merely loathsome toad, I have to wonder how well they can possibly understand political actors and the common person during the bloody confessionalization of Europe. Our nation states and the rational, neutral public square were in part coping mechanisms and reactions to religious, political, ethnic, and linguistic pluralism in Europe that could not be held together once competing factions went to war with each other. And of course individual ethno-national blocs were never completely politically stable or homogeneous, thereby preserving the potential for new ruptures and reconfigurations. -----Original Message----- From: David L. Miller [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Olive Branch Fine with me. But you're wrong about what I really mean when it comes to Ralph Reed. I only care about his religious beliefs when he brings them into the political arena. And I'm quite willing to tell any Jew or Muslim who uses his politics to hateful ends that he's abusing the dignity of a religous tradition that deserves a far different kind of respect. >>> [log in to unmask] 6/19/2005 4:24:01 PM >>> In a message dated 6/19/2005 9:09:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Having got that off my chest, I will offer an olive branch, knowing it may not satisfy you. I do see and hear anti-Christian bias in the academy, especially in literary study. I wouldn't say it's prevalent or endemic, but it's there, and it isn't called out the way less fashionable kinds of prejudice are. OK. I accept. Your points about the PTA and school prayers are also on the mark. I also acknowledge that the ivory tower crack was not helpful. Actually, it really was not my goal to go off on an angry tangent. I would really rather talk about Shakespeare or something. MRS -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2689 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005