Back in the office on Monday I noticed this conversation. So did Peter Fowler, David (or whoever) come up with a definition of their brave new term? It was on one of the Review agendas in Y2K for what became Power of Place, but never made the published version. I've always thought it was relevant to what we do as a group. Google finds no definition of `historic+environment', but the attached search on just `environment' include some generic elements. I thought the World Bank version (about No 8) had a lot of what would be needed. Does anyone have a favourite def of HE? - Brian -----Original Message----- From: Issues related to Sites & Monuments Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Baker Sent: 03 February 2005 10:31 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Term HER The term 'historic environment' was around in the early 70s. I used it as the title for the Bedfordshire Structure Plan Aspect Report ('The Historical Environment' - January 1974); I may have got the phrase from Peter Fowler, but I can't immediately find a reference. In April 1974 the Bedfordshire SMR began a 23 year period when it supported and benefited from the county-wide specialist advisory service, being used as much for listed building and Conservation Area survey and casework as for what much later became known as PPG16 stuff. Stephen's right about the 1992 re-baptism: perhaps we were slow off the mark, because it had been doing what must be an essential hall-mark of an HER (however organised in these modern electronic times) for the previous 18 years. David Baker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Coleman" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 3:48 PM Subject: Re: Term HER Nick, Not sure about the first published use of the term but the first Record to use it as far as I am aware was here in Bedfordshire in October 1992 when our then Sites, Monuments and Buildings Record was officially renamed the Historic Environment Record. Stephen R. Coleman Historic Environment Information Officer -----Original Message----- From: Nick Boldrini [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 02 February 2005 14:21 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Term HER Hello folks can anyone point me towards the first use of the term Historic Environment Record - I think it was first mentioned in a speech, but the first published use would be useful. Is it Power of place? or has it been referred to earlier elsewhere? I need to know for my MSc dissertation thanks in advance best wishes Nick Boldrini Historic Environment Record Officer Heritage Section Countryside Service North Yorkshire County Council Direct Dial (01609) 532331 This email is personal. It is not authorised by or sent on behalf of North Yorkshire County Council, however, the Council has the right and does inspect emails sent from and to its computer system. This email is the sole responsibility of the sender WARNING This E-mail and any attachments may contain information that is confidential or privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any opinions expressed are those of the author and not necessarily the view of the Council. North Yorkshire County Council. ******************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your email software. Please also destroy and delete the message from your computer. Any modification of the contents of this email is strictly prohibited unless expressly authorised by the sender. ******************************************* Save energy, money and the environment - is it necessary to print this message? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by return email or inform Oxford City Council Business Systems 01865-252111. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual author and not necessarily those of Oxford City Council. Oxford City Council does not guarantee that this e-mail is free from viruses. Please undertake your own virus checks.