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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture The etymology of Ploermel (plebs Armel) stirred my memory. Does the plebs refer to a church or parish similar to the term pieve in Italy (e.g. Città della Pieve)? I seem to recall that term pieve may indicate either the rural people (perhaps the Latin paganus) or to a baptismal church or parish (which seems to be one of the possible meanings); but this is a hazy recollection and may be wrong. Does the same meaning lie behind plebs. Regrettably there is no French or Italian etymological dictionary to hand. Many thanks for the reference, Andre-Yves, I am in your debt. Wyn Thomas Wyn Thomas Prif Gatalogydd | Llyfrgellydd Gwybodaeth (Dyniaethau a'r Gwyddorau) Y Llyfrgell Prifysgol Cymru, Casnewydd, Campws Caerleon Blwch Post 179 Casnewydd NP18 3YG Chief Cataloguer | Information Librarian (Humanities and Science) LIS | Library University of Wales, Newport Caerleon Campus Library PO Box 179 Newport NP18 3YG Tel./Rhif ffôn: +44 (0)1633 432104 Fax/Ffacs: +44 (0)1633 432920 minicom: 01633 432245 e-mail/e-bost: [log in to unmask] Website/Safle we: http://lis.newport.ac.uk/ ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html