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On 11 Aug 2005, at 00:11, Lesley Newson wrote: > But to be fair, a version of ID was the working theory of how life > came about > for many of the great thinkers of western civilization. It is just > that > Charles Darwin (and many others) provide us with buckets of > evidence to > support another theory - evolution by natural selection. No it wasn't. Biblical creationism was the accepted model for a long time. This was shown to be false by early geologists who discovered that the Earth was much older than the 6000 years or so that Judeo- Christian mythology held to be the case. This occurred before Darwin proposed his theory (Darwin was certainly aware of the work as geology was an interest). ID is a new skin for the same tired old ideas and is an attempt to cloak them with the respectability of science. This is ironic as the majority of its leading proponents are very anti-science and hold many weird views (such as denying that HIV causes AIDS). Ian -- Ian Robinson - Belfast - UK <http://www.canicula.com> Soapbox - <http://homepage.mac.com/ianrobinson/index.html> ********************************************************************** 1. To suspend yourself from the list, whilst on leave, for example, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the following message: set psci-com nomail 2. To resume email from the list, send the following message: set psci-com mail 3. To leave psci-com, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the message: leave psci-com 4. Further information about the psci-com discussion list, including list archive, can be found at the list web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/psci-com.html 5. The psci-com gateway to internet resources on science communication and science and society can be found at http://psci-com.org.uk **********************************************************************