Good on you, Ken. Yeah: stay out of it that way. And I think even atheists can acknowledge the outside & the gift, they just might never capitalize that whatever. And many deeply committed people of faith are at least able to get that such wonderful writing as is found in various holy books is rich in such things as metaphor, symbolism, etc. It's because it digs deeper than mere fact that it touches people. Doug Douglas Barbour Department of English University of Alberta Edmonton Alberta T6G 2E5 Canada (780) 436 3320 http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/dbhome.htm O baby, get out of Egypt – This history is not for you, Get out of there, out of my path, Out of my speechless mouth, the Egypt shrieking a redundant, plundering tongue . . . An ancient slang speaks through me like that. Gwendolyn MacEwen