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Sally, I'm not sure that the fact that the people on this list choose not to reply to you, or choose not to let you know whether they have, or have not taken up your suggestion makes them apathetic. The very existence of the list, and the vigorous debate that it produces, proves the opposite, in my opinion. Derek. _________________________________ Derek Ord Head of Student Administrative Services Integrated Student Services University of Hull (01482) 465980 -----Original Message----- From: Plagiarism [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of sally jones Sent: 19 April 2005 11:14 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Interesting I see not one person commented on my suggestion that people write to candidates etc asking what steps they will take to make the selling of essays etc illegal. So people can huff and puff but in reality cheating (including plagiarism) will spread. After all, it's easy and it's cheap (i.e. cheaper than drugs - a 'good essay' costs about 13 pints of beer or maybe 10 spliffs or a handful of ecstacy tablets) Anyway if you pay £20,000 for an MBA what's an extra £2000 for a first clas dissertation? For people's interest, I DID write to candidates for Lib and Tory and Greens. They all replied - these are available should people like copies - off list. Maybe I should set up a review site of all the cheat sites - that would be providing a useful service to students surely? It could include advice in buying cheat services, ways to avoid anti-plagiarism software, the universitiies that don't frown on cheats, links to people who will sell you forged certificates, testimonials from (anonymous) people who have bought the services....yes, definitely an idea. Oh yes, extracts from the posts here showing how academia is by and large apathetic after all, these posts are in the public domain.... Sally ************************************************************************* You are subscribed to the JISC Plagiarism mailing list. To Unsubscribe, change your subscription options, or access list archives, visit http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/PLAGIARISM.html ************************************************************************* ************************************************************************* You are subscribed to the JISC Plagiarism mailing list. To Unsubscribe, change your subscription options, or access list archives, visit http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/PLAGIARISM.html *************************************************************************