Some thoughts about proposals: Yes, I think that judges always have to judge and designers always have to propose. And at whatever depth of agency, the designerąs role is to help get us from here to a more desirable there. But how does one know a good proposal from a bad one or a better one? Should we just submit our briefs like lawyers to the judge? I think one of the remarkable characteristics of a good design proposal is the way that it seems to be an answer to so many of the interests and concerns at play, and all at the same time. Usually it takes a series of intermediate proposals, which are good answers to some of the needs, to evolve into a more integrative proposal that satisfies a significant majority of the needs simultaneously. Getting a two-for in designing is nothing. How about a ten-for as an indicator of incipient success? I donąt think design processes can proceed without the willingness or the ability to make proposals, and I donąt think its possible to make perfectly resolved proposals at the beginning of a process without a celestial connection of some kind. Proposals in design processes of any complexity are quite naturally and regularly subjected to evaluation against the forces that are driving the process, whatever we call them - needs, interests, concerns, desires, fears, beliefs as the process unfolds. These are forceful, directional drivers, alive and present, and parents to the process. I donąt think itąs possible to represent the wonder of the highly integrated proposal without referring to the way it satisfies, is successful and resolves the significant. Whether arguing a proposal backward or forward, it seems unlikely that one will be able to avoid meeting the parents. Regards, Jerry ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jerry Diethelm Architect - Landscape Architect Planning & Urban Design Consultant Prof. Emeritus of Landscape Architecture and Public Service 2652 Agate St., Eugene, OR 97403 € e-mail: [log in to unmask] € web: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~diethelm € 541-686-0585 home/work 541-346-1441 UO € 541-206-2947 work/cell