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Dar Glenn, I an no clinical psychologist, but this is silly... Just because you receive some divine inspiration in your sleep does not necessarily mean that your subconscious is not engaged in an active process of design, one that is clearly located within your own corporeality, and not passed onto to you as a lightning bolt of inspiration. I have never had any inspirations of the type you are talking about that are not already tied to some process I am already consciously engaged in. It makes perfect sense to me that when I am asleep, all of the distractions caused by bewildered students, fellow peers, and intermittent phone calls that seem to plague my waking hours all interrupt a clean and focused stream of through or concentration on a design process. In my sleep my sub-conscious wanders and is free to find associations and relations that I have not clearly or coherently been able to determine in my conscious mind during daylight hours. This does not mean that it is separate from a design process centred around intentı. And as a side note, I often wonder whether these kind of ideas actually are our bestı ideas, or whether this is some myth and/or fallacy that is perpetuated by designers whom aspire to divine inspiration in order to avoid committing to hard work. I have had a lot of students over the years whom subscribe to omnipotent intervention, waiting until the last minute to pick up a pencil let alone design. Their excuse is always, ³I was waiting for divine inspiration.² This does not make them designers, just lazy and ignorant. My two cents worth... On 12/8/05 11:19 PM, "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Two points. > > 1. > > if designers work from intention - then how do we get our best ideas in our > sleep? > > many deamlike states are not intended - who would ever wish themselves a > nightmare? > > > 2. > > The diving team process - 2 questions to Edgar. > > To get in the team does one need to display a propensity for diving or a > particular talent - to get selected? > > Can anyone get on the team with enough effort and physical training? If at > college, I decided to stop design and opt for diving - what would my chances > have been? > > > GJ > > > > > > > > Regards, : : christopher_brisbin : : B. Des. Studies, B. Architecture (hon I) _3|4|5|6_ c o m m u n i c a t i o n s t u d i o PhD Candidate Postgraduate Representative for Architecture Member of the ATCH Research Centre [ architecture/theory/criticism/history ] http://www.architect.uq.edu.au/atch/index.html [ postal ] Department of Architecture School of Geography, Planning, Architecture The University of Queensland Queensland 4072 Australia CRICOS Provider Code 00025B [ e ] [log in to unmask] [ p ] +61 07 3365 3957