Dear Klaus,
You say you prefer 'proposal' to 'specification' because a design does not need as specific as a computer program or an
engineering drawing. As far as I can see, most non-trivial 'designs' consist of the contractual communications that are 'specifications' such as engineering drawings, computer code etc (specifcations for producing products, creating and managing systems, structuring organisations, defining how influences can be actualised (policy and advertising designs)etc)  - that are deliberately written in  formal languages/ and tightly defined symbolic structures so as to be as unambigous to the reader as possible.
Seems to me that a core aspect of producing a 'design' is this use of formal singular unambigous 'langauges' for which the aim is to minimise the reinterpretation by the user of the design (as distinct formt he user of the outcome when the design is actualised as a product systems etc).
Best regards,
Terry
 
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From: Klaus Krippendorff
Sent: 10/01/2005 3:13 AM
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Subject: Re: Design and intention


the reference to the intentional fallacy is a useful one
thanks,
michael.
i said earlier, defining design in terms of intentions is a slippery slope
to make design meaningless.
but in my reading of rosan's post, she too argues against intentionality as
a defining criterion. instead she resurrects terry's suggestion to focus on
specifications.
i made the same point earlier, focusing on proposals -- verbal, visual,
performative, demonstrative -- and insisting that proposals (specifications)
reside in the domain of communication.

the meaning of communication is not determinable by the communicator (the
intentional fallacy).

a designer can make a proposal but if nobody reads it as a proposal, it did
not propose (or specify) anything.

people may read something as a proposal even if it was not intended as such
(or as proposing what others are reading into what was said), then it has
the effect of a proposal -- as read or understood.

we like to claim intentionality when the proposal was read as or taken to be
a good one. we deny intentionality when the proposal is judged undesirable
(an accident)

focusing on a proposal or specification (i prefer proposal to specification
because a design does not need as specific as a computer program or an
engineering drawing) has the advantage of bypassing mentalism in favor of
something one can read and read variously in different social contexts. it
also opens up a space or inquiries into why when which writings and drawings
became proposals and which did not, were seen as art, for example

klaus

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Of Michael A R Biggs
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 7:01 AM
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Subject: Re: Design and intention


May I make a brief methodological comment on what Rosan has said about St
Thomas Aquinas?

Like statistics, and biblical quotations, ideas from the history of
philosophy can be found to support almost any view. Gold-digging must
therefore be pursued with care in case one finds only Iron Pyrite. Ideas
from 13th century have had some time to be criticized and overtaken by
alternative ideas, and the context in which they arose is now completely
changed. This does not mean they are wrong, obsolete or without interest.
However, it does mean that we cannot simply pick them out and reuse them
today as though they were new. If "intentionality" (note objections by
Brentano) is really the topic of interest in design, then I suggest "the
intentional fallacy" (Wimsatt, W.K. and M. Beardsley, "The Intentional
Fallacy" Sewanee Review, 54 (1946)) is a more topical place to start these
days. It reflects issues that are current in thought in our time, which
naturally reflects the development of ideas and criticism of those ideas
over centuries. It may well be that a solution to Rosan's problem can be
found in an Aristoteleanism, but she might need to bear in mind the reasons
why Aristoteleanism is not a popular contemporary approach, and why those
venerable ideas were at some point rejected in favour of alternatives.

Michael

At 07:04 09/01/2005, Rosan Chow wrote:
>thanks for the post. it is relevant to what i have thinking. i am chewing
>St. Thomas 'exemplary cause' which i believe might lend theoretical support
>to your wish to open up (again) the meanings of design (that might
>eventually be useful to practice).

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