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Dear Ken, Terry and others. Maxine Sheets-Johnstone listed "embodied connectionism", "embodied mind", "embodied schema", "embodied agents", "embodied actions" and others, as examples of how "in this sense, the term "embodiment" is a lexical band-aid covering a 350-year-old wound generated and kept suppurating by a schizoid metaphysics." Wonderfully phrased I think and words that will make sense to me until I meet, in this world, a disembodied mind. Like Terry, I have a broad background before studying industrial design. I am a trained potter, at that time a 4 year apprenticeship, and like Terry I am skilled in many different areas, maybe not as many and as impressive as Terry's, but still! What I have taken from the pottery and into what I consider my design skills is the ability to naturally think in three dimensions. The fact that things have insides and outsides, as well as backsides and whatever, has been incorporated into my "body of knowledge" so to say, and in design school it was visible in my projects, compared to projects of my fellow students who came from more two-dimensional "pen and paper based" backgrounds. This example I can verbalize, but I am pretty sure that it is not the only skill from my dubious past that has has an effect on my design skills, whatever they are For my research now, tangible interaction design, I could not have chosen a better background, can you imagine anything more tangible? Cheers! Mads Mads Vedel Jensen Ph.D Candidate, Msc User Centred Design Mads Clausen Institute University of Southern Denmark On 26/2-2005, at 11.01, Ken Friedman wrote: > > This requires the embodied mind -- and it requires that the mind be > able to use the > intellect as well the hands. > > For my part, I agree with all three of you together. > > Best regards, > > Ken > > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:40:54 +0000, Fiona Jane Candy > <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > (1) > >> Like Peter Walters I also strongly disagree with the way you suggest >> that the intellect resides some where other than in the hands. > > (2) > >> Our minds are in our bodies- not in a box on the top. >