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Hi Rosan Yours and Jans points very much appreciated... Its nice to give a diverse perspective, hence Farson. Farson... yes a little *overbearing* ...music to designers ears or not? I am not in total agreement, although I have a strong sense many designers don't understand the true value of there skills beyond the studio. Do designers imagine themselves as leaders? and are we encouraging them enough? >There is nothing wrong to have a group composed of 'Top Leaders', but I find it a little bit out of my alley when it is 'ENTIRELY' composed of 'Top Leaders'. This selection or attitude seems to be out of sync with my understanding of current design thinking. if design thinking is going to affect 'powerful leaders', then i expect to see not only designers in the board room, but also people who are influenced by the board room decisions. I am not so against getting the top people, why wouldn't you if it was an option? *people on the board who are influenced by the board room decisions* I would also like see more of this. Kind regards Ian Jarvela-Rooney