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+ADw-HTML xmlns:eXclaimer+AD0AIg-http://www.exclaimer.co.uk+ACIAPg- +ADw-HEAD+AD4- +ADw-META http-equiv+AD0AIg-Content-Type+ACI- content+AD0AIg-text/html+ADs- charset+AD0-UTF-16+ACIAPg- +ADw-META HTTP-EQUIV+AD0AIg-Content-Type+ACI- CONTENT+AD0AIg-text/html+ADs- charset+AD0-UTF-16+ACIAPgA8-TITLE+AD4-RE: Kumar +ACY- Clark to be insitutionalised+ADw-/TITLE+AD4- +ADw-META http-equiv+AD0-Content-Type content+AD0AIg-text/html+ADs- charset+AD0-utf-7+ACIAPg- +ADw-META content+AD0AIg-MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200+ACI- name+AD0-GENERATOR+AD4APA-/HEAD+AD4APA-BODY +AD4APA-DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV dir+AD0-ltr align+AD0-left+AD4APA-SPAN class+AD0-056142009-22072005+AD4APA-FONT face+AD0-Arial color+AD0AIw-0000ff size+AD0-2+AD4-Yes, one would hope that the 2002 edition (5th)+ACY-nbsp+ADs-contained some usefull information and we have not just emergered from an age of ingnorance with the pending release of the 6th+ADw-/FONT+AD4APA-/SPAN+AD4APA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV dir+AD0-ltr align+AD0-left+AD4APA-SPAN class+AD0-056142009-22072005+AD4APA-FONT face+AD0-Arial color+AD0AIw-0000ff size+AD0-2+AD4APA-/FONT+AD4APA-/SPAN+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV dir+AD0-ltr align+AD0-left+AD4APA-SPAN class+AD0-056142009-22072005+AD4APA-FONT face+AD0-Arial color+AD0AIw-0000ff size+AD0-2+AD4-Steve Glover+ADw-/FONT+AD4APA-/SPAN+AD4APA-/DIV+AD4APA-BR+AD4- +ADw-DIV class+AD0-OutlookMessageHeader lang+AD0-en-us dir+AD0-ltr align+AD0-left+AD4- +ADw-HR tabIndex+AD0--1+AD4- +ADw-FONT face+AD0-Tahoma size+AD0-2+AD4APA-B+AD4-From:+ADw-/B+AD4- UK medical/ health care library community / information workers +AFs-mailto:LIS-MEDICAL+AEA-JISCMAIL.AC.UK+AF0- +ADw-B+AD4-On Behalf Of +ADw-/B+AD4-Dobson, Malcolm+ADw-BR+AD4APA-B+AD4-Sent:+ADw-/B+AD4- 22 July 2005 10:06+ADw-BR+AD4APA-B+AD4-To:+ADw-/B+AD4- LIS-MEDICAL+AEA-JISCMAIL.AC.UK+ADw-BR+AD4APA-B+AD4-Subject:+ADw-/B+AD4- Re: Kumar +ACY-amp+ADs- Clark to be insitutionalised+ADw-BR+AD4APA-/FONT+AD4APA-BR+AD4APA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-So that's Steve told off for wanting to unload old rubbish onto developing countries.+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-The usefulness of previous editions depends on how extensive and/or significant the revisions in the new edition are. This is something that the publishers won't indicate - after all, they are commercial organisations that want us to buy the latest edition (just as a car manufacturer wants us to buy the latest model)+ADw-/FONT+AD4APA-/P+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Malcolm Dobson+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-/P+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4------Original Message-----+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-From: Mcsean, Tony (ELS) +AFsAPA-A href+AD0AIg-mailto:T.Mcsean+AEA-ELSEVIER.COM+ACIAPg-mailto:T.Mcsean+AEA-ELSEVIER.COM+ADw-/A+AD4AXQA8-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Sent: 22 July 2005 09:04+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-To: LIS-MEDICAL+AEA-JISCMAIL.AC.UK+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Subject: Re: Kumar +ACY-amp+ADs- Clark to be insitutionalised+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-/P+AD4APA-BR+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-No we do not.+ACY-nbsp+ADs- As the Elsevier person responsible for our HINARI and AGORA+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-participation I feel very strongly that we can and shoud do better than+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-provide superceded, outdated resources to libraries and researchers in the+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-developing world.+ACY-nbsp+ADs- Through HINARI we provide free and unlimited access to+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-much of Science Direct to most of the world's 100 poorest countries.+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Providing access to ebooks is on the HINARI agenda but the team is currently+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-engaged on other priorities, particularly on solutions to the bandwidth+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-problem.+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-/P+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-For all its problems, the strength of the HINARI/AGORA project is that it is+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-based on the premise that technology now allows us all to do what we would+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-always have liked to do - make the latest and best information services+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-available where previously there was only ingenuity and make-do-and-mend.+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-It's not perfect.+ACY-nbsp+ADs- In some places the +ACI-last mile+ACI- bandwidth problem is+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-actually a +ACI-last couple of thousand miles+ACI- problem, but with HINARI those+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-seeking to extend broadband across Africa and south Asia have a really+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-worthwhile benefit they can point to - and in the meantime we can look to+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-bandwidth conservation measures to keep things up and running.+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-/P+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Tony+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-/P+AD4APA-BR+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Tony McSe+AOE-n+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Director of Library Relations+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Elsevier+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4AKw-44 7795 960516+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4AKw-44 1865 843630+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-/P+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4------Original Message-----+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-From: Steve Glover +AFsAPA-A href+AD0AIg-mailto:SGlover+AEA-PICR.man.ac.uk+ACIAPg-mailto:SGlover+AEA-PICR.man.ac.uk+ADw-/A+AD4AXQ- +ADw-/FONT+AD4APA-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Sent: 21 July 2005 13:35+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-To: Mcsean, Tony +-AFw-(ELS+-AFw-)+ADs- LIS-MEDICAL+AEA-JISCMAIL.AC.UK+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Subject: RE: Kumar +ACY-amp+ADs- Clark to be insitutionalised+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-/P+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Hello Tony+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-/P+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Do Elsevier have any plans to make the previous Edition available freely via+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Bookshelf on PubMed?+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4APA-A href+AD0AIg-http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db+AD0-Books+ACY-amp+ADs-itool+AD0-toolbar+ACI- target+AD0AXw-blank+AD4-http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db+AD0-Books+ACY-amp+ADs-itool+AD0-toolbar+ADw-/A+AD4APA-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-/P+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-This would be especially helpful for developing countries+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-/P+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Steve Glover+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Medical Librarian+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Christie Hospital NHS Trust+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Manchester UK+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-/P+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4------Original Message-----+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4AWwA8-A href+AD0AIg-mailto:LIS-MEDICAL+AEA-JISCMAIL.AC.UK+ACIAPg-mailto:LIS-MEDICAL+AEA-JISCMAIL.AC.UK+ADw-/A+AD4AXQ- On Behalf Of Mcsean, Tony (ELS)+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Sent: 21 July 2005 10:56+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-To: LIS-MEDICAL+AEA-JISCMAIL.AC.UK+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Subject: Kumar +ACY-amp+ADs- Clark to be insitutionalised+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-/P+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-ollowing on from previous postings about the issue of institutional access+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-for the 6th edition of Kumar +ACY-amp+ADs- Clark: Clinical Medicine, we have reviewed+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-our policy and it is with pleasure that Elseviercan announce that+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-institutional access will be available on a subscription basis shortly after+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-publication of the print edition.+ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-/FONT+AD4APA-/P+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Details on the content and pricing will be made available shortly.+ACY-nbsp+ADs- We will+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-also be contacting existing customers of the 5th edition soon.+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-/P+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Tony McSean+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Sirector of Library Relations+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4-Elsevier+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-/P+AD4- +ADw-P+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4AKw-44 7795 960516+ADw-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/FONT+AD4- +ADw-BR+AD4APA-FONT size+AD0-2+AD4---------------------------------------------------------+ADw-/FONT+AD4- 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