Maybe a 'non-information librarian' works for the secret service, & supplied the info in Blair's dodgy dossier (although to be fair to them they did say it wasn't reliable- it was Blair who mis-used it) Or maybe the librarian in the 'Name of the Rose' was a non-information librarian, as he suppressed knowledge the church didn't like - I think there must still be a few around, given that the Catholic church denies that condoms help prevent the transfer of HIV. A non-information librarian certainly wouldn't support CILIP's latest press release on freedom of information (has anyone ever seen a press release from CILIP actually make it into the press?) Malcolm Dobson -----Original Message----- From: Juliet brown [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 03 August 2005 10:52 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Change in job title Heheheheheeee personally I love that title. When my husband got a promotion at work he was toldl he could pick his title and I suggested he was a Professor of "clever things", he was not amused, he chose to be Prof of numerical geosciences (how boring - but he does basically count gravel as a living). I wonder what a non information librarian does.... if I ever find one I will have to ask. J Juliet Brown Medical Librarian - Vale of Leven DGH Never lend books, for no one ever returns them. The only books I have in my library are books that other folks have leant me. (Anatole France) The information contained in this message may be confidential or legally privileged and is intended for the addresseee only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems, please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. >>> "Gray, Geraldine" <[log in to unmask]> 08/03/05 10:55am >>> Talking about Job titles, I agree with Malcolm it does sound like an amalgam between porter/security and library assistant. Can I add another bete-noire of mine...cannot say how much I am irritated by the title ..Information Librarian Geraldine -----Original Message----- From: Juliet brown [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 03 August 2005 10:40 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Change in job title hmmmm floor assistants - an ideal job for a floozie called flo. Sorry, couldn't help that. I'm suprised they don't ask for a bit of carpet laying or polishing while they are at it. Perhaps it is just a true reflection of what people think. Must be other wonderful titles out there for our jobs cheers, J (information carer?/wild book handler?) Juliet Brown Medical Librarian - Vale of Leven DGH Never lend books, for no one ever returns them. The only books I have in my library are books that other folks have leant me. (Anatole France) The information contained in this message may be confidential or legally privileged and is intended for the addresseee only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems, please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. >>> Ann Brew <[log in to unmask]> 08/03/05 10:02am >>> Hello, Has anyone else seen this advert and been horrified by the completely demeaning title ? http://www.platform2recruit.co.uk/universityoflondon/pages/jobdetails.asp?id =1490 Perhaps someone from the relevant department (Library, HR, Recruitment Office ?) could explain in exactly what way a floor assistant differs from a library assistant ? I've taken a look at the job description and it seems suspiciously similar to library assistant tasks... "You will work at the Membership and Circulation and Bibliographic service-points performing a range of front of house and manual support duties, including dealing with user enquiries, the issue, return and renewal of books, servicing the Closed Stack collection, and moving bookstock. You will also provide support across a range of routine activities related to the maintenance of book stacks and the up-keep of the library areas in general. Previous experience of working in a customer service or similar environment is required and you must possess a helpful and friendly demeanour combined with the ability to undertake a number of tasks simultaneously in such a way as to be immediately helpful to library visitors and users. A good team member, able to work independently to meet set targets, you will have basic keyboarding skills and the ability to acquire new skills on standard library systems. The duties of the post involve a requirement for the manual handling and movement of furniture, equipment and library bookstock and some Evening/Saturday duties." Is this where the library profession is going ? Removing the word 'library' from all our titles so people will never understand what we do ? Ann-Emily Brew Assistant Librarian BMA Library British Medical Association BMA House Tavistock Square London WC1H 9JP ______________________________________________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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