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Reading his book last night, there is a page in which he (actually by this stage I don't know whether it is him or his co writer) suggests that libraries gave in without a wriggle every time there was a political battle of books and sex. There is no scholarly apparatus on this point, rather simply a reference to having talked with some friends who were librarians. If I think back to the formation of the gay librarians group and librarians for social change, it seems to me that by the 1970s we were prepared to take on things. But before that, I am not sure that one should rely on memory? And tracking back to the formation of the public and university, and mechanics institutes etc perhaps even church and parish, indeed unto the earliest, it would be good to be able to demonstrate that libraries have been a force for good; that after all was the idea of information in the need to know. Can anyone point me to something which Roy Porter missed? I can do the work myself but would like to speed things up. This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.